NYT: Clinton rehusó buscar el voto de los curritos blancos

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Lo cuenta el New York Times: A Hillary le ofrecieron que diera un discurso en la Universidad de Notre Dame el día de San Patricio. Normalmente, todo candidato salta de alegría ante esa oportunidad de captar un sector importante de votantes. Pero el equipo de Hillary dijo que no, que los white catholics no eran su objetivo electoral.

Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr. had each addressed the group, and former President Bill Clinton was eager for his wife to attend. But Mrs. Clinton’s campaign refused, explaining to the organizers that white Catholics were not the audience she needed to spend time reaching out to.


Pensaba su equipo que les bastaba con los jóvenes, los hispanos y los personas de color para ganar las elecciones:

Instead, they targeted the emerging electorate of young, Latino and African-American voters who catapulted Mr. Obama to victory twice, expecting, mistakenly, that this coalition would support her in nearly the same numbers. They did not.


Así que sus analistas piensan que el fracaso tiene un doble origen:

Clinton no podía captar la rabia antiestablishmnet en EEUU porque nadie la creería.

Y cedió el voto de la clase blanca trabajadora a Trump, por más que su marido Bill le insistiera en que intentara captar sus votos aunque solo fuera para diluir el dominio que tenía allí Trump. Hillary se negó, que les llegaba con los blancos pijos de los suburbios.

And she ceded the white working-class voters who backed Mr. Clinton in 1992. Though she would never have won this demographic, her husband insisted that her campaign aides do more to try to cut into Mr. Trump’s support with these voters. They declined, reasoning that she was better off targeting college-educated suburban voters by hitting Mr. Trump on his temperament.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign.html?ref=todayspaper&_r=1

Añado que, leyendo los foros de los demócratas durante estas elecciones, a veces aparecía alguien comentando si eso (el desdén por los votos blancos) no era su error. Al momento, le respondía una muchedumbre indignada diciendo que no querían los votos de los racistas. Entre ellos muchos varones blancos que insistían que no era necesario buscar su voto, porque ellos eran conscientes de que quienes sufrían penurias en EEUU eran las mujeres y las minorías.

No sé cómo han reaccionado a la derrota, que el foro del que me nutría fue saboteado el día de las elecciones y desde entonces, no ha regresado.
 

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Igualica igualica que el Luisma y el Barajas, que hacen lo mismo...


.......luego se quejan si pierden millon y medio de votos y culpan al "facimo" y a los "facitas" blancos porque no les votan.

LA CULPA ES DEL FACISMO!...dijo tambien el pasapisero Espinar y asi van pasando los dias, entre facimo y facimo.
 

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Sin embargo Trump si que acudió a la llamada de la EWTN, la principal cadena católica del país, creo que nunca habían concedido una entrevista a un candidato presidencial. Los ataques al catolicismo de Hilaria que fueron filtrados, debieron hacer que se pusieran de parte de Trump. Hasta entonces Raimond Arroyo, que no es cualquiera, es el director, había mantenido una neutralidad a rajatabla.

World Over EXCLUSIVE - Donald J. Trump with Raymond Arroyo - YouTube

Lo que no entiendo es ese empecinamiento contra el votante blanco, Notre Dame es casi una universidad progre, le habría venido de perlas para sus intenciones de domesticar al catolicismo, solo veo una gran autosuficiencia y desprecio por los demás por parte de Hilaria que le ha resultado fatal.
 

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Los progres desprecian y hasta diría que odian a los blancos (siendo ellos mismos blancos en muchos casos), además que dan por hecho que el blanquito les vota sin que tengan que hacer esfuerzo alguno por contentarlos. Espero que los blanquitos vayan despertando y se organicen al igual que los jovenlandeses, Jovenlandeses, gitanitos, empoderaditas y gaicitos.
 

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Entiéndase por "establishment", los precursores del NWO y racistas anti-blancos, porque esos son los que mandaban hasta ahora.

En el año 2040, se esperaba que USA se convirtiese en el mayor país de minorias del mundo.

Tal vez Trump llegue tarde.
 

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El artículo completo:


Hillary Clinton’s Expectations, and Her Ultimate Campaign Missteps

By AMY CHOZICKNOV. 9, 2016

Last year, a prominent group of supporters asked Hillary Clinton to address a prestigious St. Patrick’s Day gathering at the University of Notre Dame, an invitation that previous presidential candidates had jumped on. Barack Obama and Joseph R. Biden Jr. had each addressed the group, and former President Bill Clinton was eager for his wife to attend. But Mrs. Clinton’s campaign refused, explaining to the organizers that white Catholics were not the audience she needed to spend time reaching out to. As it became clear on Tuesday night that Mrs. Clinton would lose to Donald J. Trump, supporters cast blame on everything from the news media to the F.B.I. director’s dogged pursuit of Mrs. Clinton over her personal emails, and to a deep discomfort with electing a woman as president. But as the dust settled, Democrats recognized two central problems of Mrs. Clinton’s flawed candidacy: Her decades in Washington and the paid speeches she delivered to financial institutions left her unable to tap into the anti-establishment and anti-Wall Street rage.

And she ceded the white working-class voters who backed Mr. Clinton in 1992. Though she would never have won this demographic, her husband insisted that her campaign aides do more to try to cut into Mr. Trump’s support with these voters. They declined, reasoning that she was better off targeting college-educated suburban voters by hitting Mr. Trump on his temperament. Instead, they targeted the emerging electorate of young, Latino and African-American voters who catapulted Mr. Obama to victory twice, expecting, mistakenly, that this coalition would support her in nearly the same numbers. They did not. In the end, Mr. Trump’s simple promise to “Make America Great Again,” a catchphrase Mrs. Clinton dismissed as a vow to return to a racist past already long disappeared, would draw enough white Americans to the polls to make up for his low minority support. “The emerging demographic majority isn’t quite there yet,” said Anita Dunn, a Democratic strategist and former White House communications director. “The idea you can get to a presidential campaign and just press a button and they’ll vote, it’s not there yet.” Mrs. Clinton had planned to conclude her 19-month campaign with an elaborate victory celebration on Tuesday night, complete with confetti shaped like glass shards that would fall from the glass ceiling of the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in Midtown Manhattan — an extravagant production to mark the history of the evening. Instead, in a hastily scheduled speech in a dreary hotel ballroom on Wednesday, Mrs. Clinton gave her concession speech, declaring the country “more deeply divided than we thought.”

“This loss hurts,” she said. “But please never stop believing that fighting for what’s right is worth it.” The weaknesses in her candidacy, Ms. Dunn and other Democratic leaders said on Wednesday, were more than demographic. Though she and outside groups raised half a billion dollars to take on Mr. Trump with the most sophisticated ground game modern politics had seen, spanning the barrios of Orlando, Fla., black churches of North Carolina and the casinos of Nevada, the rationale for her run seemed more of a repudiation of Mr. Trump than Mrs. Clinton’s own positive vision for the country. Even Mrs. Clinton’s closing chant in the final days of her campaign — “Love trumps hate!” — sounded like a play on her opponent’s name rather than her own inspiring vision. Her campaign had built-in contradictions and challenges. She wanted to make history as the first female president, but she did not want to play it up so much so that she would turn off men. She vowed to help the little guy, but she accepted millions of dollars for speeches to Wall Street. She wanted to bring the country together, but she suffered from a stubbornly high number of voters who did not trust or like her. Mrs. Clinton’s campaign tested out 84 slogans. There was “She’s Got Your Back,” “Strength You Can Count On” and “Real Fairness, Real Solutions.” “Do we have any sense from her what she believes or wants her core message to be?” Joel Benenson, the campaign’s chief strategist and pollster, asked the chairman of her campaign, John D. Podesta, ahead of a New Hampshire speech, according to a hacked email that was among the thousands released by WikiLeaks.

Mrs. Clinton had defeated Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont in the primary race by rallying older African-American voters and Democratic women, but she seemed disconnected from the white working class that delivered Mr. Sanders’s victories in Michigan and Wisconsin. Mr. Trump won Wisconsin on Tuesday and appeared to have narrowly won Michigan, as well. He won 67 percent of the vote among non-college-educated whites, compared with 28 percent for Mrs. Clinton, according to exit polls. Early on, Mr. Clinton had pleaded with Robby Mook, Mrs. Clinton’s campaign manager, to do more outreach with working-class white and rural voters. But his advice fell on deaf ears. The sophisticated data modeling Mr. Mook relied on showed that young, Latino and black voters would turn out as they had hoped. But while they favored Mrs. Clinton overwhelmingly, she could not run up the score with them like Mr. Obama had in 2012. With voters 29 and younger, for example, Mrs. Clinton won by 18 points, down from Mr. Obama’s 22 points in 2012, and 29 points in 2008, according to exit polls conducted by Edison Research. The Clinton campaign was also betting on college-educated suburban voters who ended up drifting away from Mrs. Clinton in the final days, which the campaign attributes to the F.B.I.’s renewed focus on her emails as early voting began. A spokesman for Mrs. Clinton, Brian Fallon, said the campaign did not cede white working-class voters to Mr. Trump, pointing to a bus tour Mr. and Mrs. Clinton and her running mate, Senator Tim Kaine of Virginia, went on in rural pockets of Ohio and Pennsylvania after the Democratic National Convention in July. He added that shaving into Mr. Trump’s lead among these voters would not have given Mrs. Clinton a path to victory. The campaign also appeared to overestimate how offended Mr. Trump’s female supporters would be by an “Access Hollywood” recording in which Mr. Trump is heard bragging about grabbing women by the genitals. Mr. Trump lost among women by 12 percentage points, exit polls showed, about the same deficit Mitt Romney had in 2012.

In the final weeks of the campaign, a despondent Mr. Clinton held a flurry of his own events in Ohio, Iowa, the Florida Panhandle and Wisconsin, talking to the white voters who like him but who view his wife with distrust. “I think Bill Clinton was right” about the need to concentrate more in those areas, said Jay S. Jacobs, a prominent New York Democrat, pointing to Mr. Trump’s victories in Wisconsin, Ohio and Michigan, states Mrs. Clinton’s campaign had largely overlooked. Former Gov. Edward G. Rendell of Pennsylvania also said he had encouraged campaign aides at Mrs. Clinton’s Brooklyn headquarters to spread their vast resources outside Philadelphia and Pittsburgh and focus on rural white pockets of the state. “We had the resources to do both,” Mr. Rendell said Wednesday. “The campaign — and this was coming from Brooklyn — didn’t want to do it.” (Mr. Trump won Pennsylvania by one percentage point.) But Mr. Jacobs and others said Mrs. Clinton’s campaign leadership thought Mrs. Clinton was an imperfect messenger to connect with Rust Belt voters on issues like global trade deals, which she had previously supported. “In 2000 and 2008, working-class voters saw her as their champion — it was the core of her support,” said Mark Penn, the chief strategist of Mrs. Clinton’s 2008 campaign. “By 2016, issues of trade, stagnated wages and immigration had piled up, and Trump was successful at exploiting those against her.” The situation was made worse in September, when Mrs. Clinton described half of Trump supporters as a “basket of deplorables.” Afterward, she told one adviser that she knew she had “just stepped in it.” And in the end, Mr. Trump’s Twitter feed proved more powerful than any of Mrs. Clinton’s poll-tested slogans, said Hank Sheinkopf, a veteran Democratic political consultant. “Class anger won,” he said, delivering a staggering defeat to the Clinton strategy of “more money, more consultants, more polling and more of a campaign based on what we thought we knew rather than what the electorate felt.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/10/us/politics/hillary-clinton-campaign.html
 

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Le respuesta es bien fácil, ¿eres blanco, heterosexual y varón?, pues eres un privilegiado por partida triple, es lo que llevan berreando desde hace años, no tienes derechos, ya que tienes todos los privilegios según ellos, solo obligaciones y culparte de la opresión que dicen sufrir los demás. Les da igual que seas un parado desde que cerró tu fábrica o un granjero a punto de arruinarse, te desprecian si no te pliegas a sus ideas.

¿Recordáis al bobo de Víctor y "nuestros privilegios?, pues en USA llevan sufriendo a tipos así desde hace años.

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Supongo que la loca orate sedienta de sangre pensaba que teniendo de su lado a Paquito el de blanco ya tenía ese segmento asegurado, repasemos lo que dijo el jefe/jefecísimo por la desgracia de Dios:

Paquito el de Blanco: Por suerte ha dicho que soy político, porque Aristóteles define a la persona humana como ‘animal politicus’. Yo por lo menos soy una persona humana ¿eh?… Y que soy una ‘ficha en un tablero’… quizá… no sé… lo dejo al juicio de ustedes, de la gente… Y, además, una persona que piensa solo en construir muros, sea donde sea, en no construir puentes… no es cristiana. Éste no es el Evangelio. Sobre lo que se me pregunta, acerca de qué le aconsejaría yo si votar o no votar: no me meto. Solamente digo: este hombre no es cristiano, di dice eso. Hay que ver si él ha dicho esas cosas ¿no? Y por ello concedo el beneficio de la duda.

P.D.: Yo lo que aún me pregunto es como una parte importante de católicos aún no ha mandado a la hez esa religión suicida e insultante.