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"A dia de hoy lo veo dificil, la gente o no quiere saber o prefiere olvidarlo, es decir el control mental al que hemos sido sometidos por años ha funcionado pero que muy bien."

Estoy de acuerdo, por eso, para mí es clave en todo esto el 11-S.

Me explico, estamos tan intoxicados por años de manipulación, que si conseguimos hacer ver a la gente que todo un gobierno democrático como el de USA se implicó en un autoatentado de esas dimensiones sólo por poner en marcha una determinada politica exterior, habremos dado el primer paso.

No sé en cual de los muchos documentales que he visto sobre el tema, creo que fue en "In planes sites" alguien decía que mentalmente nos cuesta mucho aceptar un hecho como este, que nos bloqueamos e intentamos negarlo para no complicarnos la existencia.

Sin embargo, cada día veo menos intervenciones, y mucho más espaciadas en el tiempo, de esas personas que ridiculizaban a los foreros que en los últimos años y en varios hilos de este foro han intentado remover estos temas.

Creo que algo está cambiando, yo lo percibo así en mi entorno.
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Weapons Confiscation in Wisconsin

(copied from received email 12/12/08)

Update - Despite us hearing of a court postponement
it seems now (12/15/08) the Tuesday 16th Dec date is still on.


If someone disagreed with you about an article or story you published and then complained to the police who came into your business and arrested you for disorderly conduct, would that incident be newsworthy?

What if the police arrested you for disorderly conduct while you were exercising any other constitutionally protected right because someone did not want you to exercise your right? Would you want to tell the people of Wisconsin how fragile it is to exercise their rights?

Once arrested, do you think an employer or all your friends and neighbors would understand or would some of them want to maintain more distance with you? Unfortunately, being arrested is the same thing as being found guilty to many people in the court of public opinion. The police don’t arrest innocent people just for exercising a constitutionally protected right after all. That would be outrageous.

Or do they?

Please come (or send a reporter) to the West Allis City Courthouse on Tuesday December 16th at 8 am when this question will be answered in court.

On August 22, Brad Krause was planting trees in his yard, at least until police stormed his residence and arrested him. It turns out they received a call from a man who said he didn't appreciate that Brad carried a gun, and wanted something done about it.

The West Allis police department sent two squads to investigate, and found Brad in his yard, minding his own business planting trees. From behind him, police rushed him, yelling, "Don't move!" while bearing down on him with their weapons drawn.

They shortly discovered Brad had no criminal record and was lawfully openly carrying on his own property, but instead of releasing him and returning his weapon, they tried to figure out how to arrest him. A call to the supervising lieutenant provided the answer: claim his action of carrying a weapon is disorderly conduct, and haul him down to the station. His firearm was taken away from him without a receipt, and it has not been returned. The police have effectively banned his exercise of his right by disarming him.

The fact is that Wis. Stat. § 941.23 does not ban or prohibit the lawful carrying of firearms by citizens. By enacting the law, the legislature intended to force citizens to openly carry their firearms while in public, which is what Mr. Krause was lawfully doing (additionally, he was on his own property).

Mr. Krause is self employed as a property manager and this action by the City of West Allis has cost him long term business relationships. The police had him standing in handcuffs on his own property for 45 minutes with squad cars parked in front of his residence while they tried to figure out a way to arrest him. Fortunately, Mr. Krause had taken a friends advice and he had a voice recorder with him and the entire incident was recorded and it has been transcribed.

Civil rights are very important – all of them – which is why they are protected from governmental actions just like this. The media would be all over this story if a voter had been wrongly arrested while waiting in line to vote, or a worshipper had been arrested while attempting to enter their place of worship, or a reporter was arrested while writing an article.

The Wisconsin Supreme Court has said an otherwise reasonable exercise of police power cannot be invoked in a way that "eviscerates," "destroys," "frustrates," or "nullifies" the constitutional right to bear arms, yet that is exactly what is being done by law enforcement departments all over Wisconsin today. In Wisconsin, constitutional rights do not expand the police power; they restrict the police power. See Buse v. Smith, 74 Wis. 2d 550, 564, 247 N.W.2d 141 (1976); see also Robert Dowlut & Janet A. Knoop, State Constitutions and The Right to Keep and Bear Arms, 7 Okla. City U. L. Rev 177, 185 (1982) (describing the general application of this principle).That is why this is such an important matter and I am asking for you to publically expose this unlawful use of police power.

Weapons confiscation in Wisconsin

Hay mucha más información en esa web de este tema, por cierto que el nombre de la asociación me da yuyu......

JEWS FOR THE PRESERVATION OF FIREARMS OWNERSHIP.
America's Most Aggressive Defender of Firearms Ownership.

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Antiguo 26-dic-2008, 20:11
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Rifles láser para la policía de Estados Unidos

El Departamento de Justicia de USA está trabajando en dos nuevas armas destinadas al policía de calle. Son un encanto. La primera es un ADS portátil que utiliza microondas para tostarte la piel. Nada, poca cosa, como mucho, sales con quemaduras de segundo grado. La segunda se corresponde con la imagen que aquí se ve: es un PhaSR, al más puro estilo Starship Troopers. Esta monada hace lo mismo que la anterior, aunque mejor, porque penetra con más eficacia la ropa de la víctima, quiero decir, del delincuente. Al parecer, ya las están probando “en distintos escenario, que podrían incluir situaciones en prisiones, así como la aplicación de la ley” (?). Ah, estos estadounidenses y su amor por las armas.


Rifles láser para la policía de Estados Unidos - Gizmodo ES - The gadgets weblog
US police could get 'pain beam' weapons - tech - 24 December 2008 - New Scientist
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Otra vuelta de tuerca mas sobre la ley marcial en USA. Cada vez...mas cerca.


U.S. Military Preparing for Domestic Disturbances

by Jim Meyers


Global Research, December 23, 2008
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A new report from the U.S. Army War College discusses the use of American troops to quell civil unrest brought about by a worsening economic crisis. The report from the War College’s Strategic Studies Institute warns that the U.S. military must prepare for a “violent, strategic dislocation inside the United States” that could be provoked by “unforeseen economic collapse” or “loss of ********ing political and legal order.”
Entitled “Known Unknowns: Unconventional ‘Strategic Shocks’ in Defense Strategy Development,” the report was produced by Nathan Freier, a recently retired Army lieutenant colonel who is a professor at the college — the Army’s main training institute for prospective senior officers.
He writes: “To the extent events like this involve organized violence against local, state, and national authorities and exceed the capacity of the former two to restore public order and protect vulnerable populations, DoD [Department of Defense] would be required to fill the gap.”
Freier continues: “Widespread civil violence inside the United States would force the defense establishment to reorient priorities in extremis to defend basic domestic order … An American government and defense establishment lulled into complacency by a long-secure domestic order would be forced to rapidly divest some or most external security commitments in order to address rapidly expanding human insecurity at home.”
International Monetary Fund Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn warned last week of riots and unrest in global markets if the ongoing financial crisis is not addressed and lower-income households are beset with credit constraints and rising unemployment, the Phoenix Business Journal reported.
Sen. James Inhofe of Oklahoma and Rep. Brad Sherman of California disclosed that Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson discussed a worst-case scenario as he pushed the Wall Street bailout in September, and said that scenario might even require a declaration of martial law.
The Army College report states: “DoD might be forced by circumstances to put its broad resources at the disposal of civil authorities to contain and reverse violent threats to domestic tranquility. Under the most extreme circumstances, this might include use of military force against hostile groups inside the United States.
“Further, DoD would be, by necessity, an essential enabling hub for the continuity of political authority in a multi-state or nationwide civil conflict or disturbance.”
He concludes this section of the report by observing: “DoD is already challenged by stabilization abroad. Imagine the challenges associated with doing so on a massive scale at home."
As Newsmax reported earlier, the Defense Department has made plans to deploy 20,000 troops nationwide by 2011 to help state and local officials respond to emergencies.
The 130-year-old Posse Comitatus Act restricts the military’s role in domestic law enforcement. But a 1994 Defense Department Directive allows military commanders to take emergency actions in domestic situations to save lives, prevent suffering or mitigate great property damage, according to the Business Journal.
And Gen. Tommy Franks, who led the U.S. military operations to liberate Iraq, said in a 2003 interview that if the U.S. is attacked with a weapon of mass destruction, the Constitution will likely be discarded in favor of a military form of government.




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Artículo en el que se explica que la 3ª División de Infanteria USA, finalizó hace pocos dias en Maryland unos ejercicios de protección civil. Según el artículo, estos ejercicios van encaminados a que la población se familiarice con la presencia de tropas en las calles.

Northcom Combat Team Conducts ?Humanitarian Support? Exercise in Maryland Dprogram.net
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Estado mexicano en riesgo de colapso súbito: ejercito de Estados Unidos

Un documento elaborado por el ejército de Estados Unidos para evaluar riesgos potenciales a la seguridad Estadounidense a nivel mundial ubica México como uno de los dos paises en riesgo de colapsarse subitamente.

De acuerdo con este documento, México se encuentra en una situación en la que "el gobierno, sus políticos, policía e infraestructura judicial están todos bajo asalto sostenido y presión por bandas criminales y cárteles de drogas. Cómo termine ese conflicto interno en los próximos años tendrá un gran impacto en la estabilidad del Estado mexicano. Cualquier caída de México en el caos demandaría una respuesta americana basada en serias implicaciones para la seguridad interna solamente."

El documento titulado "Joint Operating Environment (JOE 2008)", en el cual se ubica a México en riesgo de colapso, es el resultado de un estudio hecho por el Comando de Fuerzas Conjuntas Americanas (U.S. Joint Forces Command), el cual es una de las unidades de combate del Departamento de Defensa estadounidense.

"En particular, el creciente asalto por los cárteles de la droga y otros criminales contra el gobierno mexicano durante los últimos años nos recuerda que un México inestable representa un problema de seguridad interna de proporciones inmensas en los Estados Unidos", dice el texto del estudio en la página 34. Más adelante, en la página 36, el estudio establece que "En términos de escenarios de peor de los casos para la Fuerza Connjunta y de hecho para el mundo, dos grandes e importantes estados tienen consideración para un rápido y súbito colapso: Pakistán y México."

Respecto al reporte el diario estadounidense El Paso Times publica que empresarios de El Paso han manifestado que a pesar del reporte "mucha gente está en la negativa respecto a lo que realmente pasa en México."

El diario también tiene en su sitio de internet una encuesta en la que pregunta que si México podra colapsarse. Hasta el momento 63.37% han respondido que sí, ya que "los narcos han tomado el control."

Estado mexicano en riesgo de colapso súbito: ejercito de Estados Unidos | SDP
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Antiguo 23-ene-2009, 12:33
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Un detalle mas de lo que sucede en silencio.

Mystery Prison Buses in the Desert


Ellen Brown
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January 22, 2009
On a recent visit to Tucson, where I was invited to give a presentation on monetary reform, I was disturbed by a story of strange goings on in the desert. A little over a year ago, it seems, a new industrial facility sprang up on the edge of town. It was in a remote industrial zone and appeared to be a bus depot. The new enterprise was surrounded by an imposing security fence and bore no outward signs identifying its services. However, it soon became apparent that the compound was in the business of outfitting a fleet of prison buses. Thirty or so secondhand city buses were being reconfigured with prison bars in the windows and a coat of fresh paint bearing the “Wackenhut G4S” logo on the side.




Now owned by the Danish corporation G4S, Wackenhut Services has a sinister reputation for hiring thugs. It has been said that it’s hard to tell which is more dangerous, the prisoners or the guards.


The new Wackenhut operation is shrouded in mystery. It has been running its fleet of empty prison buses night and day, apparently logging miles on a Department of Homeland Security (DHS) contract. Multiple buses can be seen driving all over town and even on remote desert back roads. Oddly, except for the driver and one escort guard seated in front, these buses are always empty.
Wackenhut Services was founded by George Wackenhut in 1954 to provide prison guard services to state and federal governments. Mr. Wackenhut was reported to be something of a brawler himself, having once earned distinction beating up his business partner in a fist fight. Now owned by the Danish corporation G4S, Wackenhut Services has a sinister reputation for hiring thugs. It has been said that it’s hard to tell which is more dangerous, the prisoners or the guards.
Observers originally thought that the purpose of the new Wackenhut operation was to outfit prison buses to be distributed in other parts of the country. But it soon became apparent that none of the buses was leaving the Tucson depot. Recently, a passerby observed what appeared to be a training operation there. In what seemed to be strange activity for 10:30 PM on a Saturday night, the depot yard was fully illuminated, the entire fleet of buses was up and running, and drivers and guards were scrambling around the yard. The question is, what were they training for?
Wackenhut has never officially announced itself to the community, and the local news media have never mentioned its presence. Hiring has been discreetly conducted via the Internet, and an apathetic general public has taken little notice. Among the few who have noticed, one theory is that the prison bus depot is simply infrastructure for border security. But if so, where are the illegal aliens? Why are these buses always empty? What is the alleged justification for burning thousands of gallons of diesel fuel to run thirty decrepit, smoking buses night and day without passengers?
There is another interesting piece to this puzzle. On the desolate plain between Phoenix and Tucson is a tiny town called Florence, Arizona, which features a population consisting largely of prisoners. For decades, Florence has been the home of two of the largest county and federal prisons in the state; and in 2007, a vast new DHS prison was built there as well. Like the Wackenhut buses, this shiny new facility, which literally disappears into the horizon, has gone unannounced and unnoticed by the general public. A new facility for imprisoning illegal aliens? It is hard to imagine such expensive infrastructure being built for that purpose when U.S. policy has been to simply return illegals to their home countries.
Fraud and waste aside, this mysterious activity has sinister implications. Why the obvious secrecy? Since the World Trade Center disaster in 2001, the Department of Homeland Security has grown to monster proportions, claiming a projected $50 billion of the federal budget in 2009. DHS includes the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), which earned notoriety in 2005 for its gross mishandling of the Katrina disaster in New Orleans. Al Martin, a retired naval intelligence officer and former contributor to the Presidential Council of Economic Advisors, has linked the remilitarization of FEMA to the civil unrest anticipated along with economic collapse. He wrote in a November 2005 newsletter called “Behind the Scenes in the Beltway”:
“FEMA is being upgraded as a federal agency, and upon passage of PATRIOT Act III, which contains the amendment to overturn posse comitatus, FEMA will be re-militarized, which will give the agency military police powers. . . . Why is all of this being done? Why is the regime moving to a militarized police state and to a dictatorship? It is because of what Comptroller General David Walker said, that after 2009, the ability of the United States to continue to service its debt becomes questionable. Although the average citizen may not understand what that means, when the United States can no longer service its debt it collapses as an economic entity. We would be an economically collapsed state. The only way government can ******** and can maintain control in an economically collapsed state is through a military dictatorship.”1
Of course, there may be another, more innocent explanation for all this. But anyone living near one of these facilities should be asking to hear it. In the meantime, the ominous implications would seem to warrant exploring alternative sources of funding for the federal budget and the federal debt. There are other ways to deal with the national debt than relying on the waning appetites of the Chinese and the Japanese for U.S. securities. Some innovative possibilities for funding both the federal debt and President Obama’s new economic stimulus package will be the subject of future articles. Stay tuned.
1. Al Martin, “FEMA, CILFs and State Security: Shocking Updates,” Al Martin Raw: Political, Economic & Financial Intelligence (November 28, 2005).

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Antiguo 23-ene-2009, 21:10
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Obama lo habìan escogido para que fuese el presidente de Estados unidos antes de de las primarias, se sabia que los de Obama antes que nada tenian los meores estrategas (los que no fallan) en elecciones, Mcain hizo una buena campagna despues de todo, pero estaba predestinado a no vencer. Estas campañas electorales estàn arregladas todas en España y en otros paises tambien, ya deciden quien va a ser el pròximo presidente antes de que uno comienze a pensare en elecciones, Estaba predecidido que Zapatero gobernase dos veces seguidas asì como Aznar.
Estaba predecidido que Despues de Clinton venia Bush y la guerra en Iraq estaba predecidida tambièn.

Obama es un orador bàrbaro, quien sabe hasta donde podrìa llegar a engañar a la gente con ss buenas palabras. Son titeres todos.
Algo podrian hacer, pero ni eso hacen. Estan engañados ellos mismo, los presidentes, ni saben lo que les espera.

La ley marcial estaba decidida, desde hace decadas, el 11 de septiembre de 2001 estaba decidido desde hace dècadas. Està preparado el plan tremendo de asesinar a muchos cristianos fieles al papa, quieren acabar con el papa en la tierra, tienen un plan esencialmente el mismo desde hace dos siglos, en el que acabarian con el cristianismo especialmente el catolicismo, y exclusivazmente a los catolicos fieles al papa. O sea los fieles.

Las persecuciones llegaràn a todo el mundo, tambien en aquellos lugares donde se pensaba que no llegarìan nunca.

Las persecuciones en los paises àrabes estàn en acto desde hace 50 años, en India, en Cina, los paises comunistas desde hace 70 años, en Europa va desde el tiempo de Napoleòn que quieren derribar al papa, hasta la primera guerra mundial la provocaron con ese mismo propòsito escondido. Las persecuciones contra los cristianos catòlicos son morales, psicològicas, y de desinformacion en Europa y Amèrica. Campañas de odio como antes de una gran guerra se llevan a cabo por internet y por todos los medios posiles para que las personas se llenen de odio y hagan el trabajo de otros de hacer estas campañas contra Cristo y su Iglesia unida al papa.

Estan preparando persecuciones violentas contra los cristianos fieles al papa, contra toda la Iglesia unida al papa.

Todo esto de la ley marcial y muchas otras cosas ya decididas anteriormente hacen parte del mismo plan.


Son todos unos orgullosos esos que hacen èstos planes.

Última edición por Jesùs lo dijo; 23-ene-2009 a las 21:12
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Tanta Ley Marcial, Tanto Apocalicsis, Tanta Crisis Energetica, Tanto Mad Max Y Tanta Posha Y Aqui No Pasa Nah!!!!
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Tanta Ley Marcial, Tanto Apocalicsis, Tanta Crisis Energetica, Tanto Mad Max Y Tanta Posha Y Aqui No Pasa Nah!!!!

Lo veras este mismo año posiblemente.
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