Terrorismo palestino: el gran desconocido de los nazis y pro-palestinos del foro.

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los terroristas de Hamas usan escuelas para lanzar misiles y morterazos. Algunas fuentes hablan de cuarenta muertos, entre ellos niños y civiles que eran utilizados como escudos humanos por los terroristas.

Unos cuarenta muertos en una escuela que Hamas usaba para lanzar misiles - Internacional - Libertad Digital


entre los últimos reportes del conflicto en Gaza se menciona que Hamás se roba los recursos humanitarios que se envían para los pobladores.

292 niños judíos fueron asesinados por grupos terroristas palestinos desde el inicio de la segunda intifada, desde el mes de Septiembre del año 2000, hasta Noviembre del 2008.

Judíos muertos en atentados terroristas palestinos:

Cifra total :6.598

Hombres :6.114
Mujeres :484
Niños :292

Los mafiosos palestinos de Hamás educan a sus hijos en el repruebo y los instruyen en el crimen, según los preceptos del Corán, que no es precisamente una declaración universal de derechos humanos.
Y Hamás, esa víctima de “la crueldad judáica”, no sólo asesina a cristianos y judíos, sino también a los palestinos pertenecientes a otras mafias palestinas como la de Fatah.

Martha Colmenares | La cifra de niños judíos asesinados por los terroristas palestinos, los de Gaza usados como escudos. Videos y Reportaje

pacíficos palestinos educando a sus hijos en el dialogo y la paz:rolleye::



palestino con buenas intenciones:

 
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nancy Roots of Palestinian Nationalism

By David Storobin

"Our fundamental condition for cooperating with Germany was a free hand to eradicate every last Jew from Palestine and the Arab world. I asked Hitler for an explicit undertaking to allow us to solve the Jewish problem in a manner befitting our national and racial aspirations and according to the scientific methods innovated by Germany in the handling of its Jews. The answer I got was: The Jews are yours."

Former Mufti of Jerusalem Haj Amin al-Husseini in his post-World War II memoirs. [1}

"The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry and had been a collaborator and adviser of Eichmann and Himmler in the execution of this plan... He was one of Eichmann's best friends and had constantly incited him to accelerate the extermination measures."

Adolf Eichmann`s deputy Dieter Wisliceny in his Nuremberg Trials testimony. [2]

Within weeks of Adolf Hitler`s ascendance to power, the Mufti of Jerusalem, Haj Amin al-Husseini, contacted the German counsel-general in Palestine. With the exception of funding some anti-Semitic riots, Germans rejected the Arab`s overtures until 1937, when Adolf Eichmann and Herbert Hagen were sent to Palestine to establish a framework to provide Husseini with military and financial aid by nancy Germany and Fascist Italy. [3]

By then, the Mufti had already proven his anti-Jewish credentials to the Germans by organizing a three-year-long series of riots and massacres.

On April 19, 1936, a crowd of Arabs stumbled upon Jews in the town of Jaffa. Having been incited by Mufti-spread rumors that Zionists were killing Jovenlandeses, the crowd decided to kill three of the Jews they met. Six days later, the Arab Higher Committee was created, with al-Husseini presiding over the new ****** The committee openly endorsed past violence and began organizing future terror.

On May 5, the British colonial authorities warned al-Husseini against committing illegal acts but did not appear particularly decisive, leading the Arab to conclude that he could organize mass violence with impunity. By October 1936, nearly 300 people were killed and another 1,100 wounded. [4]

Colonial forces arrested a few pawns and one major leader, but took no action against the Mufti. The New York Times reported on June 14, 1936 that al-Husseini had succeeded "in convincing experienced high British civil servants that he is working for the government`s interests [and that] it was in the interest of the government that he should also be president of the new Arab High Committee," so that Haj Amin el-Husseini enjoys the government`s complete confidence as its unofficial adviser on the Arab side of the situation....The government believes that he and only he is in a position to appease the Moslem masses; therefore it gives him every support while at the same time playing into his hands." [5]

Continuing its policy of siding with the Mufti, in June the Brits arrested scores of members of the Defense Party sponsored by the rival Nashashibi clan, despite lack of any evidence that the Nashashibis were involved in the massacres. Ninety percent of Arabs in the Sinai concentration camp belonged to the Defense Party, with another 10 percent coming from smaller political movements. None of the Husseini-backed people were sent to the camp. [6]

The UK was not the only power helping the Mufti in 1936. The USSR-sponsored Communist Party of Palestine also did its part. After the 1929 massacres (including the slaughter of 68 Jews in Hebron), the Communist Party issued a statement that "revolutionary movement without pogroms [anti-Semitic riots] is impossible." The Communists even considered the Mufti "too moderate" in his fight against Jews. [7]

In the run-up to the 1936-39 riots, the Palestinian leader began coordinating the organization of anti-Jewish violence. In November 1935, Communists declared that Zionists were killing Arabs, helping the Mufti`s propaganda campaign to spark Arab rage against the Jews. On the eve of the first riots, Communists met al-Husseini to work out the final terms of their roles in the upcoming violence. Communist Party member Nimr Uda became the intelligence chief for the Mufti`s military units. Another Communist representative, Fuad Nasir, was named deputy to Abdul Qadir Husseini, commander of Arab fighters in the southern West Bank. [8]

By 1937, Britain realized the Mufti was sponsoring the violence not just against Jews, but against the English as well. Al-Husseini fled Jerusalem and settled in Lebanon. So glad were the British to see the Mufti leave that they did not even bother to ask the French powers governing Lebanon to extradite him.

Meanwhile, in an attempt to please the Arabs, the UK`s Peel Commission violated the League of Nations Mandate by offering a proposal to divide the land designated as the "Jewish National Home" by the League of Nations Mandate of 1922. Instead, under the Peel Commission proposal of 1937, only a small part of the land would become the Jewish state.

A year later, the Peel Commission issued another proposal, with even less land offered to Jews. Some time after that, the British issued the White Paper of 1939 rejecting the idea of a Jewish National Home and severely restricting Jewish immigration. It was hoped for in London that such concessions to Arab nationalists would appease al-Husseini and his supporters. Yet, only two years after the White Paper, the Mufti would come back to strike the British again. [9]

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In 1940 it looked as if Hitler's armada was unstoppable. Having already conquered France, Austria, Czechoslovakia, Poland, Norway, Denmark, Holland, Belgium and Luxembourg, Hitler and his friends in Italy, Spain and the occupied countries were clearly the rulers of continental Europe. Hitler had also allied himself with the USSR under the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact of 1939 which divided Eastern Europe by giving the Baltic states and parts of Poland and Romania to the USSR, while letting the Germans take over western Poland, Romania and other European nations.

Meanwhile, the Japanese were the dominant force of Asia, seemingly set to impose their control on that continent. Britain`s Winston Churchill stood virtually alone against the Fascist onslaught, with the United States mired in radical isolationism, refusing to take part in what many Americans saw as a European war.

The one region where the British still had significant influence was the Middle East. Hitler set out to change that. Al-Husseini wanted to get rid of the Hashemite-clan rulers in Iraq and Transjordan. Both men wanted to get rid of the Jews and the Brits. It was a marriage made in heaven.

Despite boasting a powerful navy, the United Kingdom had an army that was modest in size and spread too thin. The Middle East, especially Iraq, seemed likely to be the next pawn to fall to the Third Reich.

In 1940, King Ghazi (son of King Faisal I) died, leaving only his four-year-old son to govern. Emir Abdul-Illah, the regent for the young Iraqi king, felt the need to bring Rashid Ali al-Kaylani into the government as the prime minister, despite the latter`s support for nancy Germany and links with al-Husseini. The new head of state immediately shifted the policies of Iraq in favor of nancy Germany, guaranteeing suply of natural resources to Hitler and refusing to cut ties with Italy. The former Mufti of Jerusalem and his surrogates frequently acted as the government`s representatives with foreigners. Kaylani also asked from Hitler the right to "deal with Jews" in Arab states - a request that was granted. [10]

Britain responded with severe economic sanctions which, coupled with the UK`s initial defeat of German forces in North Africa and pressure from the Iraqi royal family, brought down the pro-German government on January 31, 1941. Kaylani and other pro-Axis Iraqis, under the influence of al-Husseini, conspired, unsuccessfully, to murder Abdul-Illah. But thanks to widespread support for Kaylani among government officials, he was back in power two months later. [11]

As one of its first acts, the restored pro-German administration sent its artillery to attack the British air base at Habbaniya, causing the Brits to respond by invading Basra. The hoped-for support from nancy Germany never came and Kaylani eventually fled to Saudi Arabia. [12]

Haj Amin al-Husseini, who issued a fatwa (Islamic religious ruling) calling on all Jovenlandeses to help the pro-Axis government in Iraq, became one of England`s most wanted men. In May 1941, a group of Jewish fighters, including David Raziel, leader of the right-wing Irgun, set out for Iraq to assassinate the former Mufti on a mission sponsored by the Churchill government. The mission ended prematurely when Raziel was killed by a bomb dropped from a German plane. Aware that his life was in danger, al-Husseini fled to Europe dressed as a woman. [13]

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On November 28, 1941 the former Mufti was officially received by Hitler, who agreed to establish a bureau for al-Husseini which was used to spread propaganda on behalf of nancy Germany, organize spy rings in Europe and the Middle East, and, most importantly, establish Muslim nancy SS divisions and Wehrmacht units in Bosnia, the Balkans, North Africa and nancy-occupied parts of the Soviet Union. After the meeting, the Mufti was also named SS gruppenfuehrer by Heinrich Himmler and referred to as the "Fuhrer of the Arab World" by Hitler himself. [14]

The largest Muslim nancy SS unit was the 13th division, known as Hanjar. Husseini also encouraged the creation of smaller, less efficient units, including the Waffen SS divisions known as Skanderbeg (made up predominantly of Albanians) and Kama (made up mostly of Yugoslavian Jovenlandeses). Thus, Hitler`s Mufti organized or encouraged three out of 27 Waffen SS divisions formed before 1945 (eleven other SS divisions were formed in 1945, but most of these were of questionable caliber and accepted soldiers of questionable skill).

According to the Encyclopedia of the Holocaust, al-Husseini "organized in record time" Croatian units that went on to massacre hundreds of thousands of Serbian Orthodox Christians. Jacenovac, the third largest death camp, where more than 200,000 people met their death, was run by Croatian Ante Pavelic with the aid of al-Husseini. In all, at least 800,000 Yugoslavian civilians were murdered by Pavelic's pro-Axis Ustaschi regime. [15]

Despite the relative inefficiency of the Hanjar division and the total incompetence of the other two divisions, it can still be said that the units established and encouraged by the "Fuhrer of the Arab World" played a significant role in the genocide. Tens of thousands of Jews outside Yugoslavia also perished when the Mufti argued against trading them for German POWs held by the Allies.

Al-Husseini opened a North African Bureau in Germany with the goal of recruiting 500,000 Arab soldiers from Morocco, Tunisia and Algeria. The plan failed when German forces were forced to withdraw from much of North Africa after a successful British operation. [16]

But an Arab Legion was founded, and it fought under the German flag. Arab soldiers had hoped to fight in the Middle East but were instead sent to the Russian front, where they were completely wiped out while fighting in the Caucasus region. Some time later, in responseto the British decision to create a Jewish Brigade made up of some of the 26,000 Palestinian Jews who had fought under the United Kingdom's flag, the Mufti convinced the Germans to create an Arab Brigade. The unit, however, either did not fight or was not very efficient because very little is known about it. [17]

The Mufti also made a particularly strong effort to recruit Soviet Jovenlandeses. "It was largely due to Haj Amin's propaganda that on the arrival of German armies in the northern Caucasus in 1942, five indigene tribes - the Chechens, the Ingushes, the Balkars, the Karachais, and the Kabardines - welcomed them with bread and salt," wrote Joseph Schechtman in The Mufti and the Fuhrer.[18] Stalin's response was deadly. Caucasian Jovenlandeses, including nearly all Chechens and Ingush, were exiled from their land, with up to a third dying as a result of inhumane treatment by Soviet authorities.

The Mufti was similarly instrumental in the recruitment of the Azerbaijani battalion, which "proved their valor, were included in German Storm Troops and decorated by the German Army," according to a November 1943 broadcast by DNB, the German News Agency. The Mufti`s representatives in Central Asia recruited some Muslim fighters for nancy Germany there as well, despite widespread sympathy among the majority of Central Asian Jovenlandeses for the plight of the Jews during the Holocaust. [19]

The Mufti`s hatred of the West was matched only by his hatred of the Jews. It is not a coincidence that Germany suddenly abandoned the policy of expelling Jews and adopted far harsher methods a short time after the Mufti arrived in Germany. When Haj Amin came to Germany again, the Nazis decided to execute the Final Solution to the Jewish Problem.

"The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry," reported Eichmann`s deputy, Dieter Wisliceny. "[He had] played a role in the decision to exterminate the European Jews. The importance of this role must not be disregarded.... The Mufti was one of the initiators of the systematic extermination of European Jewry." [20]

We do not know if al-Husseini played a major role in shaping the Final Solution. "There is, however," wrote Joseph Schechtman, "abundant first-hand evidence of the part the Mufti played in making foolproof the ban on emigration (of Jews out of Germany)." [21]

When the war ended, al-Husseini returned to the Middle East as a hero. On October 1, 1948, he was proclaimed the president of the government of All-Palestine. The government was fictional, however, because it did not control any land and was recognized by only a handful of Arab nations. In 1959 it was dispersed by its sponsor, Egypt. [22]

By that time, however, another member of the al-Husseini clan was planning terror. Around the same time that the All-Palestine government was disbanded, a man by the name of Muhammad Abd al-Rahman ar-Rauf al-Qudwah al-Husaini - better known as Yasir Arafat - was busy organizing Fatah, which would go on to become the main faction of the PLO.

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Support for Nazism was not limited to the former Mufti. "We admired the Nazis. We were immersed in reading nancy literature and books . . . . We were the first who thought of a translation of Mein Kampf. Anyone who lived in Damascus at that time was witness to the Arab inclination toward Nazism," recalled Sami al-Joundi, one of the founders of Syria's ruling Ba'ath Party. [23] Indeed, a popular WWII song was heard in the Middle East antiestéticaturing words: Bissama Allah, oria alard Hitler - in heaven Allah, on earth Hitler. Picking up the theme of the book, posters were put up in Arab markets and elsewhere proclaiming, "In heaven Allah is thy ruler; on earth Adolph Hitler." John Gunther of Inside Asia reported: "The greatest contemporary Arab hero is probably Hitler." [24]

In October 1933, pro-Axis Young Egypt Party was founded. Styling itself of its German ideal, the new party built a storm-trooper unit, marching with torches under the slogan "One folk, One party, One Leader." Among the members of the violently anti-Semitic party was the young Gamal Abdel Nasser. [25] Nasser's brother, Nassiri, was the translator of Hitler's Mein Kampf into Arabic, describing the Fascist despot in glowing terms. After the "Free Officers" came to power in the 1950's, President Nasser used Joachim Daumling, the former Gestapo chief in Dusseldorf, to build the Egyptian secret service. The Gestapo chief of Warsaw organized the Egyptian security police. [26]

Another future Egyptian President, Anwar Sadat, was imprisoned during World War II for cooperating with Adolf Hitler's regime. Towards the end of World War II, Sadat wrote to the Fuhrer: "My dear Hitler, I congratulate you from the bottom of my heart. Even if you appear to have been defeated, in reality you are the victor. You succeeded in creating dissensions between Churchill, the old man, and his allies, the Sons of Satan. Germany will win because her existence is necessary to preserve the world balance. Germany will be reborn in spite of the Western and Eastern powers. There will be no peace unless Germany once again becomes what she was." [27]

A few years prior to writing this letter, Anwar Sadat contacted Muslim Brotherhood's leader Hassan al-Banna, an ardent supporter of nancy Germany. The meeting put Sadat in contact with Abd al-Munim Adb al-Rauf, who went on to become a leading member of the Free Officers and a chief propagandist and protagonist of the Brotherhood. [28] Both men tried to join the pro-Axis fighters in Iraq, but failed. Sadat also met with Dr. Ibrahim Hasan, the second deputy of Ikhwan. The two gentlemen agreed that "salvation of the country could be assured only by a coup at the hands of the military" because of the King's support for the Allies. [29] On February 24, 1945, the Prime Minister of Egypt was assassinated by a member of the National Party as he was reading the declaration of war against Germany. [30] The Brotherhood and the military were not involved in the murder, but clearly did not object to the act. The assassination would become a sign of the things to come in the decades after the World War.

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nancy Roots of Palestinian Nationalism

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El creador del hilo es nuevo en este foro. Y demuestra que no ha salido de la Matrix.

¡Y se atreve a opinar, juzgar y etiquetarnos a los demás!

Yo no soy PRO-nada, solo defiendo a la humanidad como ser vivo pensante y razonador.

Defiendo un mundo comunista donde todos/as podemos y debemos vivir en paz, armonía y fraternidad. Sin ningún tipo de exclusión, ni social, ni económica, ¡ninguna exclusión! ¡ningún abuso!
 

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Viva Hamás.











PD: Hamás es tan solo una respuesta nacionalista a todas las barbaridades cometidas por Israel, quien siembra vientos recoge tempestades.
 

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los terroristas de Hamas usan escuelas para lanzar misiles y morterazos. Algunas fuentes hablan de cuarenta muertos, entre ellos niños y civiles que eran utilizados como escudos humanos por los terroristas.

Unos cuarenta muertos en una escuela que Hamas usaba para lanzar misiles - Internacional - Libertad Digital


entre los últimos reportes del conflicto en Gaza se menciona que Hamás se roba los recursos humanitarios que se envían para los pobladores.

292 niños judíos fueron asesinados por grupos terroristas palestinos desde el inicio de la segunda intifada, desde el mes de Septiembre del año 2000, hasta Noviembre del 2008.

Judíos muertos en atentados terroristas palestinos:

Cifra total :6.598

Hombres :6.114
Mujeres :484
Niños :292

Los mafiosos palestinos de Hamás educan a sus hijos en el repruebo y los instruyen en el crimen, según los preceptos del Corán, que no es precisamente una declaración universal de derechos humanos.
Y Hamás, esa víctima de “la crueldad judáica”, no sólo asesina a cristianos y judíos, sino también a los palestinos pertenecientes a otras mafias palestinas como la de Fatah.

Martha Colmenares | La cifra de niños judíos asesinados por los terroristas palestinos, los de Gaza usados como escudos. Videos y Reportaje

pacíficos palestinos educando a sus hijos en el dialogo y la paz:rolleye::



palestino con buenas intenciones:

Esto a lo que le han empujado ese régimen ilegal, responsable del sufrimiento de millones de personas.

Hacen eso porque es la única manera que tiene de luchar, en vez plegarse y resignarse a ser exterminados, LUCHAN, LUCHAN y LUCHAN.

Israel NUNCA pinto nada en Oriente Medio. Esto es como poner, un estado islámico entre Francia y Alemania y encima generar guerras a todo aquel país que avance un poco tecnológicamente.
 

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Falacia propagandística. Hamas no utiliza niños palestinos como escudos, por la sencillísima razón de que a los soldados israelís les importan una hez los niños palestinos.
Y son ellos, los israelís, los que los utilizan como escudos y para lo que les convenga, confesado por soldados israelíes con dos dedos de frente:

"Te pongo otro ejemplo: si encuentras en la noche un paquete sospechoso que puede ser una bomba, llamas al primer mohamed que encuentras en la calle y le dices que lo abra. Podrías llamar a un experto que lo desactivase, tardaría diez minutos en venir, pero mejor hacer que un palestino se juegue la vida, ya que para ti es lo mismo, no lo ves como un ser humano. Yo hacía eso con mis soldados en Hebrón". "Y también en Nablus, cuando quería entrar a una casa, si pensaba que podía haber una bomba trampa, cogía al mohamed de turno y lo obligaba a que abriera la puerta. Es parte de la rutina del ejército: usar a los palestinos como escudos humanos".





"Lo mismo cuando estás en un check point, los obligas esperar mucho más de los necesario, a veces durante horas, y coges a un palestino al azar y le das una paliza, de cada quince o veinte que pasan, para que el resto tenga miedo y esté tranquilo. Sólo así, tú que estás con cuatro soldados más los dominas a ellos que son miles". "Y cuando entras a Gaza con el carro de combate y ves un coche nuevo, aunque tengas espacio en la carretera, pasas por encima. Y también disparas a los tanques de agua. Para meterles miedo, para que te respeten, porque esa es la lógica de lo que nos enseñan a los soldados israelíes".
PLANETA CONCIENCIA: febrero 2009

videos en youtube a porrillo del uso de niños palestinos como escudos humanos por parte de los soldados sionistas.

Israeli soldiers convicted of using Palestinian boy as human shield | World news | The Guardian
 

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Además mienten en las cifras de niños muertos. Tampoco dicen que por cada niño de Israhell han asesinado los sionistas a más de 11 niños palestinos.:vomito:

Así está el marcador: 1477 niños palestinos asesinados por 129 de Israhell.
Se ve que es algo muy equilibrado. en lo que va de 2012 han muerto 5 niños palestinos y ninguno de Israhell

Palestinian and Israeli children Killed
 

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A los que decís que Hamas y otros terroristas se defienden de los malvados israelies porque les han invadido:

¿ justificáis los atentados de los talibanes en afghanistan contra las tropas de la OTAN (incluido soldados españoles)?

¿ justificáis los atentados de Al Qaeda por la invasión occidental (económica, imposición de lideres, guantanamo...)?
 

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De donde ha salido este tio defensor de los genocidas israelitas?demustra un cinismo inaudito defendiendo lo indefendible.
 

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Falacia propagandística. Hamas no utiliza niños palestinos como escudos, por la sencillísima razón de que a los soldados israelís les importan una hez los niños palestinos.
Y son ellos, los israelís, los que los utilizan como escudos y para lo que les convenga, confesado por soldados israelíes con dos dedos de frente:

"Te pongo otro ejemplo: si encuentras en la noche un paquete sospechoso que puede ser una bomba, llamas al primer mohamed que encuentras en la calle y le dices que lo abra. Podrías llamar a un experto que lo desactivase, tardaría diez minutos en venir, pero mejor hacer que un palestino se juegue la vida, ya que para ti es lo mismo, no lo ves como un ser humano. Yo hacía eso con mis soldados en Hebrón". "Y también en Nablus, cuando quería entrar a una casa, si pensaba que podía haber una bomba trampa, cogía al mohamed de turno y lo obligaba a que abriera la puerta. Es parte de la rutina del ejército: usar a los palestinos como escudos humanos".




"Lo mismo cuando estás en un check point, los obligas esperar mucho más de los necesario, a veces durante horas, y coges a un palestino al azar y le das una paliza, de cada quince o veinte que pasan, para que el resto tenga miedo y esté tranquilo. Sólo así, tú que estás con cuatro soldados más los dominas a ellos que son miles". "Y cuando entras a Gaza con el carro de combate y ves un coche nuevo, aunque tengas espacio en la carretera, pasas por encima. Y también disparas a los tanques de agua. Para meterles miedo, para que te respeten, porque esa es la lógica de lo que nos enseñan a los soldados israelíes".
PLANETA CONCIENCIA: febrero 2009

videos en youtube a porrillo del uso de niños palestinos como escudos humanos por parte de los soldados sionistas.

Israeli soldiers convicted of using Palestinian boy as human shield | World news | The Guardian
si lee usted el primer post los terroristas palestinos se escudan en niños porque están en una escuela lanzando proyectiles de mortero a israel.(confirmado por propios palestinos contrarios a hamas)

es una técnica muy utilizada por los terroristas(protegerse en las escuelas junto a niños) para evitar bombardeos (¿que diría la prensa si ve una escuela bombardeada por los malvados israelies?) y ataques.Si son atacados no dudan en parapetarse con los niños, eso ni lo dudes.

en cuanto a las polémicas con el ejercito de israel hay una mezcla de falsedades y verdades a medias. En cualquier caso en todos los ejércitos hay excepciones que provocan muertos injustamente debido a las situaciones de tensión (véase el ejercito polaco en afghanistan, los EEUU...). Añadir que el ejercito israeli es muy numeroso y está sometido a una situación constante de presión.