EEUU al borde de la LEY MARCIAL!! - Page 2

peptroc · #16 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 09:44 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por Lorca83

cada dia me reafirmo en que este foro esta para crear PANICO y MIEDO.

venga venga...menos lobos señores, q ya vamos servidos de catastrofismo

O simplemente el foro refleja el pánico y el miedo que ya existe.
Ten en cuenta que el catastrofismo está ahora impuesto, sólo tienes que ver las noticias de cualquier medio ya sea español o internacional que no comience con temas realacionados con la economía.

Lo curioso de todo esto es que si retrocedemos unos años, y alguien nos hubiera dicho por entonces que todo esto que estamos viendo tendría que pasar... le hubieramos dicho evidentemente que está loco.
Dos ejemplos: La burbuja inmobiliaria y el crack de EEUU con una propuesta para socializar las perdidas de todo el sistema financiero....

Lo bueno de todo esto es que hoy en dia, todo va muy de prisa, disponemos de mucha información, alguna útil y otra intoxicada por decirlo de alguna forma. Lo interesante es sacar tus propias conclusiones trillando y limpiando la paja, sí, información que también esta disponible en esos posts conspiranoicos que en cierta forma se basan en algo, aunque no tiene porqué llevarse a la realidad... lo importante es ser tu mismo y saber distinguir ....

Saludos.
peptroc.

Doomsday · #17 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por peptroc

O simplemente el foro refleja el pánico y el miedo que ya existe.
Ten en cuenta que el catastrofismo está ahora impuesto, sólo tienes que ver las noticias de cualquier medio ya sea español o internacional que no comience con temas realacionados con la economía.

Lo curioso de todo esto es que si retrocedemos unos años, y alguien nos hubiera dicho por entonces que todo esto que estamos viendo tendría que pasar... le hubieramos dicho evidentemente que está loco.
Dos ejemplos: La burbuja inmobiliaria y el crack de EEUU con una propuesta para socializar las perdidas de todo el sistema financiero....

Lo bueno de todo esto es que hoy en dia, todo va muy de prisa, disponemos de mucha información, alguna útil y otra intoxicada por decirlo de alguna forma. Lo interesante es sacar tus propias conclusiones trillando y limpiando la paja, sí, información que también esta disponible en esos posts conspiranoicos que en cierta forma se basan en algo, aunque no tiene porqué llevarse a la realidad... lo importante es ser tu mismo y saber distinguir ....

Saludos.
peptroc.

Cierto, para poder diferenciar la paja del trigo hay que trillar muuucho y tambien es cierto que no todo tiene por que suceder, de hecho el darle publicidad a estos problemas es de las pocas maneras que tenemos
de evitar que sucedan.

Doomsday · #18 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 10:10 AM

Mas videos sobre la venidera ley marcial.

[ youtube ]http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=clMloSZizhk[ /youtube ]

[ youtube ]http://es.youtube.com/watch?v=jYxTzDFofZQ&eurl=http://www.infowars.com/?p=4826 [ /youtube ]

peptroc · #19 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 10:27 AM

Ojo, Planes para implantar o ensayar la ley marcial en EEUU hace tiempo que existen, al igual que en otros paises claro, esto no es nuevo (Hay que entrenar al ejercito)
Lo nuevo es que suenen las trompetas y alguien diga que se pretenda implantar ahora, cosa que espero que no suceda, además creo que las cosas tendrían que irse aún más de madre...

año 2002:
MUNDO | El camino de EEUU hacia la Ley Marcial

año 2005:
Rebelion. ¿Preparan a EE.UU. para la Ley Marcial?

Is America Preparing for Martial Law?

Doomsday · #20 (**permalink**) 09-25-2008, 07:10 PM

Informacion sobre los campos de concentracion dispersos por EEUU y las ordenes ejecutivas que podrian ponerse en marcha en caso de emergencia, es decir una ley marcial.

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There over 800 prison camps in the United States, all fully operational and ready to receive prisoners. They are all staffed and even surrounded by full-time guards, but they are all empty. These camps are to be operated by FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) should Martial Law need to be implemented in the United States and all it would take is a presidential signature on a proclamation and the attorney general's signature on a warrant to which a list of names is attached. Ask yourself if you really want to be on Ashcroft's list. The Rex 84 Program was established on the reasoning that if a "mass exodus" of illegal aliens crossed the Mexican/US border, they would be quickly rounded up and detained in detention centers by FEMA. Rex 84 allowed many military bases to be closed down and to be turned into prisons.

Operation Cable Splicer and Garden Plot are the two sub programs which will be implemented once the Rex 84 program is initiated for its proper purpose. Garden Plot is the program to control the population. Cable Splicer is the program for an orderly takeover of the state and local governments by the federal government. FEMA is the executive arm of the coming police state and thus will head up all operations. The Presidential Executive Orders already listed on the Federal Register also are part of the legal framework for this operation.

The camps all have railroad facilities as well as roads leading to and from the detention facilities. Many also have an airport nearby. The majority of the camps can house a population of 20,000 prisoners. Currently, the largest of these facilities is just outside of Fairbanks, Alaska. The Alaskan facility is a massive mental health facility and can hold approximately 2 million people.

Now let's review the justification for any actions taken...

Executive Orders associated with FEMA that would suspend the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. These Executive Orders have been on record for nearly 30 years and could be enacted by the stroke of a Presidential pen:...

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990
allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995
allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997
allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998
allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999
allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000
allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001
allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare ********s.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002
designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003
allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004
allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005
allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051
specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310
grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049
assigns emergency preparedness ******** to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11921
allows the Federal Emergency Preparedness Agency to develop plans to establish control over the mechanisms of production and distribution, of energy sources, wages, salaries, credit and the flow of money in U.S. financial institution in any undefined national emergency. It also provides that when a state of emergency is declared by the President, Congress cannot review the action for six months. The Federal Emergency Management Agency has broad powers in every aspect of the nation. General Frank Salzedo, chief of FEMA's Civil Security Division stated in a 1983 conference that he saw FEMA's role as a "new frontier in the protection of individual and governmental leaders from assassination, and of civil and military installations from sabotage and/or attack, as well as prevention of dissident groups from gaining access to U.S. opinion, or a global audience in times of crisis." FEMA's powers were consolidated by President Carter to incorporate the...

National Security Act of 1947
allows for the strategic relocation of industries, services, government and other essential economic activities, and to rationalize the requirements for manpower, resources and production facilities.

1950 Defense Production Act
gives the President sweeping powers over all aspects of the economy.

Act of August 29, 1916
authorizes the Secretary of the Army, in time of war, to take possession of any transportation system for transporting troops, material, or any other purpose related to the emergency.

International Emergency Economic Powers Act
enables the President to seize the property of a foreign country or national. These powers were transferred to FEMA in a sweeping consolidation in 1979.

Doomsday · #21 (**permalink**) 09-30-2008, 12:32 PM

Chossudovsky hablando de los preparativos de la ley marcial

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The Army Times reports that the 3rd Infantry’s 1st Brigade Combat Team is returning from Iraq to defend the Homeland, as "an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks." The BCT unit has been attached to US Army North, the Army's component of US Northern Command (USNORTHCOM). (See Gina Cavallaro, Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1, Army Times, September 8, 2008).

"Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks.

It is not the first time an active-duty unit has been tapped to help at home. ...

But this new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one.

The command is at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado Springs, Colo., but the soldiers with 1st BCT, who returned in April after 15 months in Iraq, will operate out of their home post at Fort Stewart, Ga.,

...

The 1st of the 3rd is still scheduled to deploy to either Iraq or Afghanistan in early 2010, which means the soldiers will have been home a minimum of 20 months by the time they ship out.

In the meantime, they’ll learn new skills, use some of the ones they acquired in the war zone and more than likely will not be shot at while doing any of it. (ibid)

The BCT is an army combat unit designed to confront an enemy within a war theater.

With US forces overstretched in Iraq, why would the Pentagon decide to undertake this redeployment within the USA, barely one month before the presidential elections?

The new mission of the 1st Brigade on US soil is to participate in "defense" efforts as well as provide "support to civilian authorities".

What is significant in this redeployment of a US infantry unit is the presumption that North America could, in the case of a national emergency, constitute a "war theater" thereby justifying the deployment of combat units.

The new skills to be imparted consist in training 1st BCT in repressing civil unrest, a task normally assumed by civilian law enforcement.

What we are dealing with is a militarization of civilian police activities in derogation of the Posse Comitatus Act.

The prevailing FEMA emergency procedures envisage the enactment of martial law in the case of a terrorist attack. The 1st BCT and other combat units would be called upon to perform specific military ********s:

They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack.

Training for homeland scenarios has already begun at Fort Stewart and includes specialty tasks such as knowing how to use the “jaws of life” to extract a person from a mangled vehicle; extra medical training for a CBRNE incident; and working with U.S. Forestry Service experts on how to go in with chainsaws and cut and clear trees to clear a road or area.

The 1st BCT’s soldiers also will learn how to use “the first ever nonlethal package that the Army has fielded,” 1st BCT commander Col. Roger Cloutier said, referring to crowd and traffic control equipment and nonlethal weapons designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them.

“It’s a new modular package of nonlethal capabilities that they’re fielding. They’ve been using pieces of it in Iraq, but this is the first time that these modules were consolidated and this package fielded, and because of this mission we’re undertaking we were the first to get it.”

The package includes equipment to stand up a hasty road block; spike strips for slowing, stopping or controlling traffic; shields and batons; and, beanbag bullets.

Civil unrest resulting from from the financial meltdown is a distinct possibility, given the broad impacts of financial collapse on lifelong savings, pension funds, homeownership, etc.

The timing of this planned militarization is crucial: how will it affect the presidential elections scheduled for Tuesday November 4.

The brigade in its domestic homeland activities will be designated as the Consequence Management Response Force ( CCMRF) (pronounced “sea-smurf”).

What " Consequences" are being envisaged?

In a conference held under NorthCom last February, the mission of CCMRFF was defined as follows;

"How to protect communities from terrorist and biological attacks topped the agenda last week for more than 100 service members and civilians gathered at Joint Task Force Civil Support headquarters at Fort Monroe, Va.

The U.S. Northern Command Chemical, Biological, Radiological, Nuclear, and High-Yield Explosive Commanders’ Conference, held Feb. 21-23, brought JTF-CS subordinate task force and unit commanders here to discuss common concerns regarding operational requirements of the CBRNE Consequence Management mission and to begin preparations for Exercise Ardent Sentry 2007.

“We’re giving operationally focused briefs to our CCMRF ( CBRNE Consequence Management Response Force) units to help them prepare and successfully deploy for a CBRNE mission in the continental United States, its territories and possessions,” said JTF-CS Current Operations Specialist Hawley Waterman, who helped organized the conference. “This is also an opportunity to get acquainted and establish better relationships with (subordinate commanders).”(NorthCom, March 2007)

What is envisaged is the possibility of a (false flag) terrorist attack on America, which could be used as a justification for retaliatory or preemptive military action overseas (e.g. Iran) as well actions on the domestic front. The ultimate objective of this deployment of 1st BCT is to apply combat experience in the Homeland:

“I can’t think of a more noble mission than this,” said Cloutier, who took command in July. “We’ve been all over the world during this time of conflict, but now our mission is to take care of citizens at home ... and depending on where an event occurred, you’re going home to take care of your home town, your loved ones.”

While soldiers’ combat training is applicable, he said, some nuances don’t apply.

The operation officially has an emergency mandate to "help American citizens on American soil, to save lives, provide critical life support, help clear debris", but it also implies the running of military style operations. :in fact it would appear that the emergency tasks helping civilians is a cover-up. This is a combat unit, which is trained and equipped to kill people:

Some brigade elements will be on call around the clock, during which time they’ll do their regular marksmanship, gunnery and other deployment training. That’s because the unit will continue to train and reset for the next deployment, even as it serves in its CCMRF mission.

Should personnel be needed at an earthquake in California, for example, all or part of the brigade could be scrambled there, depending on the extent of the need and the specialties involved.

Other branches included The active Army’s new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.

Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.

In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency.

One of the things Vogler said they’ll be looking at is communications capabilities between the services.

“It is a concern, and we’re trying to check that and one of the ways we do that is by having these sorts of exercises. Leading up to this, we are going to rehearse and set up some of the communications systems to make sure we have interoperability,” he said.

A national emergency could be triggered. "[H]orrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive [attack]" or a so-called CBRNE type scenario. One assumes that this is some form of domestic attack, allegedly by terrorists.

But at the same time, the Bush administration may be seeking a justification to establish martial law and intervene militarily within the USA.

“I don’t know what America’s overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they’re called,” Cloutier said. “It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home.” (Army Times, op cit , emphasis added)

"This type of planning and coordination and training is a priority both in our headquarters and at NORTHCOM, as we understand our responsibilities to be ready should the requirement arise, God forbid," (Army News Service Sept 15m 2008)

The deployment of an Army combat unit on US territory, with a mission to curb "social unrest" constitutes a dangerous historical precedent. It creates a new legitimacy, namely that combat units can integrate civlivan law enforcement ********s and that this comes to be accepted both by the US Congress and the American public.

It should also be under that the combat units repatriated from Iraq to defend the Homeland will be replaced by mercenary forces.

Global Research Articles by Michel Chossudovsky

Doomsday · #22 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 05:55 PM

Asi andan las cosas en el imperio, el ejercito entrenando en ciudades desde hace meses y el despliegue del ejercito a partir de hoy. Las opciones mas probables en mi opinion son otro ataque de falsa bandera o que los israelis ataquen Iran viendo lo crudo que tienen que gane McCain, con la consiguiente declaracion del estado de emergencia.

U.S. Army conducting training exercises in cities, towns
Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

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Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

Rita la Cantaora · #23 (**permalink**) 10-01-2008, 06:07 PM

Oh! si..... yo hace una semana vi un video en youtube en el que decían que la FEMA estaba acumulando lo que parecían ataudes de plástico en números impresionantes.
Incluso se veia a un tío enseñando los ataudes. (claro que el tío podía ser de la FEMA o de la feria de Ganado, no se sabe, porque no quedaba claro)

Filas y filas de ataudes enorrrrrmes (para gordos, gordisimos) asi que seguramente serán para los americanos que como todos sabemos son gordísimos.

Claro que cualquiera podría preguntarse.......para que ese enorme gasto en ataudes enorrrrmes cuando una costumbre muy arraigada de los asesinos de masas es enterrar a la peña en fosas comunes???

Muy interesante lo que cuentas, ahora te tengo que dejar. Tengo cosas que hacer en el planeta tierra.

Little Big Gili · #24 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 11:40 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por Rita la Cantaora

Muy interesante lo que cuentas, ahora te tengo que dejar. Tengo cosas que hacer en el planeta tierra.

Va por ti.

Doomsday · #25 (**permalink**) 10-05-2008, 02:40 PM

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Originalmente Escrito por Little Big Gili

Va por ti.

Gracias, aqui adjunto noticia con video del representante que abandona la tribuna en tu video. En el denuncia las presiones y rumores de la implantacion de la ley marcial si no se aprueba el plan de rescate. Hay gente que se quedo en la mierda de los pisitos y no sabe loque se nos podria venir encima.

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Martial Law Will Be Declared If Banker Bill Not Passed In House

Kurt Nimmo
Infowars
October 3, 2008

In House debate on the banker “rescue” bill, Rep. Brad Sherman told his fellow Congress critters the government will declare martial law and the stock market will drop 3,000 points if the bill is not passed. “The panic-mongers were to the point of telling people the market would drop 3,000 points and there would be martial law,” said Sherman.

Sherman’s comment was not in the same context as a comment issued by Rep. Michael Burgess earlier in the week. Burgess, who appeared on the Alex Jones Show, said Pelosi threatened to invoke House rule XIII(6)(a), described as “martial law,” intended to suspend normal procedures and safeguards and thus allowing the House leadership to operate in a more authoritarian fashion. Sherman, however, said martial law would be declared on Wall Street, not in the House.

Rep. Sherman said the “exaggerated fear-mongering turned out not to be true” and the House “can draft a good bill,” regardless of the pressure put on representatives to pass the banker bailout bill.

Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

shaila · #26 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 08:23 AM

en la zona de malibu, palisades, santa monica, (no se si será casualidad) pero sospechosamente un monton de gente (con mucha mucha mucha pasta) se estan preparando sus casas para ser autosuficientes electricamente... en los angeles en 2009 van a pasar cosas.

segundaresidencia · #27 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 09:19 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por shaila

en la zona de malibu, palisades, santa monica, (no se si será casualidad) pero sospechosamente un monton de gente (con mucha mucha mucha pasta) se estan preparando sus casas para ser autosuficientes electricamente... en los angeles en 2009 van a pasar cosas.

es cierto, te acuerdas que te comente que habia una empresa que proporcionaba un kit para montarlo tu mismo para conectada?? si existe, te da hasta los marcos donde van "incrustados" los modulos,del mismo color que tu tejado, si triunfa ya la conoceras, un compañero les a ofrecido unos modulos cristalinos con celulas marrones(eficiencia del 8%,pero bueno),a ver si hacemos negocios con ellos, si triunfan acuerdate.
es como te dije , tu lo montas todo menos engancharlo al contador,llega el de la luz, pone el contador, y el de la empresa cerifica que lo has puesto como te han indicado,le hecha una firma,lo conecta al contador,y quita las laminas negras que llevan los modulos para evitar descargas.
saludos

de todas maneras yo creo que la gente con mucha pasta no lo hace por ahorrar ,es una especie de nueva moda, de enseñarlo a la gente en tus bbq

shaila · #28 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 09:55 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por segundaresidencia

es cierto, te acuerdas que te comente que habia una empresa que proporcionaba un kit para montarlo tu mismo para conectada?? si existe, te da hasta los marcos donde van "incrustados" los modulos,del mismo color que tu tejado, si triunfa ya la conoceras, un compañero les a ofrecido unos modulos cristalinos con celulas marrones(eficiencia del 8%,pero bueno),a ver si hacemos negocios con ellos, si triunfan acuerdate.
es como te dije , tu lo montas todo menos engancharlo al contador,llega el de la luz, pone el contador, y el de la empresa cerifica que lo has puesto como te han indicado,le hecha una firma,lo conecta al contador,y quita las laminas negras que llevan los modulos para evitar descargas.
saludos

de todas maneras yo creo que la gente con mucha pasta no lo hace por ahorrar ,es una especie de nueva moda, de enseñarlo a la gente en tus bbq

.. esa gente tenia ya conexiones a red y plantas electricas (he visto "casitas" con alguna de mas de 250kVA) y ahora pasan a sistemas "island" con baterias. Para presumir en las barbacoas??, esta gente celebra sus "reuniones" en sus yates o en sus islas.

lo de los modulos con la pegatina, pues bueno.., pero se que no es tan facil, en california te tiene que certificar la instalacion el building and safety de cada ciudad (es una especie de "industria" pero mas la cabeza mas cuadrada que alla, tienes que aporta un calculo de la estructura bastante completito) y la electrica, las instalaciones solo las pueden hacer instaladores con licencia aunque sean pequeñas, y nadie firma lo que hace otro, la cosa se pone muy seria si pasa cualquier cosa. Ademas para conseguir los "rebates" se tramitan a traves de la empresa instaladora.

segundaresidencia · #29 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 11:13 AM

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Originalmente Escrito por shaila

.. esa gente tenia ya conexiones a red y plantas electricas (he visto "casitas" con alguna de mas de 250kVA) y ahora pasan a sistemas "island" con baterias. Para presumir en las barbacoas??, esta gente celebra sus "reuniones" en sus yates o en sus islas.

vale ,hablas de gente de otro nivel,el otro dia lei que el de microsoft se habia independizado energeticamente en su isla,si te refieres ese tipo de gente ,supongo que si,creia que te referias a gente mas "modesta",pero no croe que lo que haga el de apple o microsoft sea extensivo a toda la poblacion

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Originalmente Escrito por shaila

.. lo de los modulos con la pegatina, pues bueno.., pero se que no es tan facil, en california te tiene que certificar la instalacion el building and safety de cada ciudad (es una especie de "industria" pero mas la cabeza mas cuadrada que alla, tienes que aporta un calculo de la estructura bastante completito) y la electrica, las instalaciones solo las pueden hacer instaladores con licencia aunque sean pequeñas, y nadie firma lo que hace otro, la cosa se pone muy seria si pasa cualquier cosa. Ademas para conseguir los "rebates" se tramitan a traves de la empresa instaladora.

si ,es cierto, pero te digo tambien que hay empresas que te dan todo para que te lo hagas, la empresa te ve el tejado, orientacion, cables, y tu te lo pones, luego ellos van a verificar todo y firmarlo si esta puesto segun te dicen,por lo que me han dicho no es ilegal, es "alegal", de hecho ya te digo que un compi a estado hablando con ellos para ver si colocamos unos paneles marrones, la historia es que hasta ahora ellos meten en los marcos modulos mitsubishi,y claro aunque esten homologados,poca gente deja los mistubishi por unos "nisu",y se encargan de todo el papeleo tambien,si triunfan , los conoceras ,acuerdate

vives por alli??? cuenta como va el tema por alli de primera mano, o como lo ve un español,que cuando hablas con un yanki , todo es de color de rosa

shaila · #30 (**permalink**) 10-06-2008, 06:46 PM

yo no trabajo ni en california, ni en usa, ni españa, paso bastante tiempo allá pues la oficina principal de mi empresa esta allí, y colaboro en algunos de los proyectos.
la impresión que tengo de california, no es el dorado ni todo es de color de rosa para la solar, pero el negocio crece. De todas formas soy un ciego que toca al elefante y da su opinion:

Había un maharajá que mandó reunir a todos los ciegos que había en Sabathi y pidió que los pusieran ante un elefante y que contasen, al ir tocando al elefante, qué les parecía. Unos dijeron, tras tocar la cabeza: “Un elefante se parece a un cacharro”; los que tocaron la oreja, aseguraron: “Se parece a un cesto de aventar”; los que tocaron el colmillo: “Es como una reja de arado”; los que palparon el cuerpo: “Es un granero”. Y así, cada uno convencido de lo que declaraba, comenzaron a querellarse entre ellos.

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