Sí que me he informado. ¿Qué quieres saber?

Insisto; he preguntado si te has informado usando fuentes cientificas.

Si la respuesta es la misma, me gustaria ver dichas fuentes.

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Te pongo algunos ejemplos de artículos y libros peer-review apoyando el diseño inteligente.

Yo no soy muy dado al diseño inteligente, soy más del tipo "creacionista duro"

http://www.discovery.org/a/2640

Featured Articles

Meyer, S. C. DNA and the origin of life: Information, specification and explanation, in Darwinism, Design, & Public Education (Michigan State University Press, 2003), Pp. 223-285. (PDF, 1.13MB)

Meyer contends that intelligent design provides a better explanation than competing chemical evolutionary models for the origin of the information present in large bio-macromolecules such as DNA, RNA, and proteins. Meyer shows that the term information as applied to DNA connotes not only improbability or complexity but also specificity of ********. He then argues that neither chance nor necessity, nor the combination of the two, can explain the origin of information starting from purely physical-chemical antecedents. Instead, he argues that our knowledge of the causal powers of both natural entities and intelligent agency suggests intelligent design as the best explanation for the origin of the information necessary to build a cell in the first place.

William A. Dembski and Robert J. Marks II, "Conservation of Information in Search: Measuring the Cost of Success," IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics A, Systems & Humans, Vol. 39 (5):1051-1061 (September, 2009). (PDF, 359KB)

Darwinian evolution is, at its heart, a search algorithm that uses a trial and error process of random mutation and unguided natural selection to find genotypes (i.e. DNA sequences) that lead to phenotypes (i.e. biomolecules and body plans) that have high fitness (i.e. foster survival and reproduction). This peer-reviewed scientific article in the journal IEEE Transactions on Systems, Man and Cybernetics A, Systems & Humans by William Dembski and Robert Marks explains that unless a search starts off with some information about where peaks in a fitness landscape may lie, any search -- including Darwinian search algorithms-- are on average no better than a random search. After assessing various examples of evolutionary searches, Dembski and Marks show that attempts to model Darwinian evolution via computer simulations, such Richard Dawkins famous "METHINKSITISLIKEAWEASEL" example, start off with, as Dembski and Marks put it, "problem-specific information about the search target or the search-space structure." According to the paper, such simulations only reach their evolutionary targets because there is pre-specified "accurate information to guide them," or what they call "active information." The implication, of course, is that some intelligent programmer is required to front-load a search with active information if the search is to successfully find rare ********al genetic sequences. They conclude that "Active information is clearly required in even modestly sized searches."

Stephen Meyer, "The Origin of Biological Information and the Higher Taxonomic Categories" Proceedings of the Biological Society of Washington 117 (2004): 213-239.

Meyer argues that competing materialistic models (Neo-Darwinism, Self Organization Models, Punctuated Equilibrium and Structuralism) are not sufficient to account for origin of the information necessary to build novel animal forms present in the Cambrian Explosion. He proposes intelligent design as an alternative explanation for the origin of biological information and the higher taxa.

Lönnig, W.-E. Dynamic genomes, morphological stasis and the origin of irreducible complexity, Dynamical Genetics, Pp. 101-119. (PDF, 2.95MB; HTML)

Biology exhibits numerous invariants -- aspects of the biological world that do not change over time. These include basic genetic processes that have persisted unchanged for more than three-and-a-half billion years and molecular mechanisms of animal ontogenesis that have been constant for more than one billion years. Such invariants, however, are difficult to square with dynamic genomes in light of conventional evolutionary theory. Indeed, Ernst Mayr regarded this as one of the great unsolved problems of biology. In this paper Dr.Wolf-Ekkehard Lönnig, Senior Scientist in the Department of Molecular Plant Genetics at the Max-Planck-Institute for Plant Breeding Research, employs the design-theoretic concepts of irreducible complexity (as developed by Michael Behe) and specified complexity (as developed by William Dembski) to elucidate these invariants, accounting for them in terms of an intelligent design (ID) hypothesis. Lönnig also describes a series of scientific questions that the theory of intelligent design could help elucidate, thus showing the fruitfulness of intelligent design as a guide to further scientific research.

Jonathan Wells, "Do Centrioles Generate a Polar Ejection Force?," Rivista di Biologia/Biology Forum 98 (2005): 37-62.

Most animal cells contain a pair of centrioles, tiny turbine-like organelles oriented at right angles to each other that replicate at every cell division. Yet the ******** and behavior of centrioles remain mysterious. Since all centrioles appear to be equally complex, there are no plausible evolutionary intermediates with which to construct phylogenies; and since centrioles contain no DNA, they have attracted relatively little attention from neo Darwinian biologists who think that DNA is the secret of life. From an intelligent design (ID) perspective, centrioles may have no evolutionary intermediates because they are irreducibly complex. And they may need no DNA because they carry another form of biological information that is independent of the genetic mutations relied upon by neo-Darwinists. In this paper, Wells assumes that centrioles are designed to ******** as the tiny turbines they appear to be, rather than being accidental by-products of Darwinian evolution. He then formulates a testable hypothesis about centriole ******** and behavior that, if corroborated by experiment, could have important implications for our understanding of cell division and cancer. Wells thus makes a case for ID by showing its strong heuristic value in biology. That is, he uses the theory of intelligent design to make new discoveries in biology.

Scott Minnich and Stephen C. Meyer, "Genetic Analysis of Coordinate Flagellar and Type III Regulatory Circuits," Proceedings of the Second International Conference on Design & Nature, Rhodes Greece, edited by M.W. Collins and C.A. Brebbia (WIT Press, 2004). (PDF, 620KB)

This article underwent conference peer review in order to be included in this peer-edited proceedings. Minnich and Meyer do three important things in this paper. First, they refute a popular objection to Michael Behe's argument for the irreducible complexity of the bacterial flagellum. Second, they suggest that the Type III Secretory System present in some bacteria, rather than being an evolutionary intermediate to the bacterial flagellum, is probably represents a degenerate form of the bacterial flagellum. Finally, they argue explicitly that intelligent design is a better than the Neo-Darwinian mechanism for explaining the origin of the bacterial flagellum.

Pongo aquí un enlace a un listado de científicos que están en contra del darwinismo:

http://www.dissentfromdarwin.org/index.php

(dale al link "download the list") (no sé qué pasa que no funciona el link si copio y pego)


Para que veas que Ron Paul no es el único que no cree en cosas que jamás han sido comprobadas científicamente.

Interesante, gracias.

Aunque creo que no tiene sentido que nos pongamos a discutir articulos con los que ni siquiera comulgas.

Solo por curiosidad, ¿en que se diferencia el creacionismo del diseño inteligente del "creacionismo duro"?

Lo de que haya algunos que disientan, no les da mayor o menor razon. En ciencia las cosas no van por mayorias, sino por evidencias.l

Aqui va una lista de respuestas a la ingente cantidad de criticas que ha recibido la teoria por parte de creacionistas;

An Index to Creationist Claims

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Entrambos parecen ser iguales, pardiez. ¿Será el primero el DI de toda la vida?, el que cree que la evolución es correcta pero que no se explica sin la intervención del Señor.

¿Cómo demuestran nuestros hamijos creacionistas que el creacionismo es correcto?. Porque el absoluto desenmascaramiento del contubernio evolucionista (bwahahaha) y la negación de la propia Evolución no prueba que el creacionismo sea cierto.

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Autosuficiencia: libros de John Seymour

Bueno, como creacionista duro quiero decir que no creo que haya habido evolución desde una primera célula a todos los seres vivos que hay hoy.

Los del diseño inteligente tengo entendido que no llegan a desechar la evolución (aunque guiada por un creador)

Yo, tal y como está el registro fósil hoy en día, rechazo completamente que haya habido una evolución de unos seres a otros. Pudiera haber habido una "transformación", pero ésta no hubiera sido gradual, sino brusca.

Todo es obra de Dios.

Fin.

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Autosuficiencia: libros de John Seymour

La evolucion en si es un hecho, con gran cantidad de evidencias cientificas. El arbol completo se desconoce, pero hay ramas que se conocen francamente bien. La del caballo creo que es una de las que mejor se conoce;

Evolution of the horse - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/horses/horse_evol.html

Otro ejemplo de evolucion gradual, lo tienes con muchas bacterias, que al convivir con los antibioticos, se han vuelto resistentes.

Bacterias y Antibióticos: Un Ejemplo de Evolución por Selección Natural

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Bueno... y aqui ya hay material para aburrir...

29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: the Scientific Case for Common Descent

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