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| Según el WSJ ante la nueva reestricción del crédito en el mercado interbancario, puede enviar al sistema bancario español al retrete. ECB Rules May Pressure Spain - WSJ.com MADRID -- New European Central Bank lending practices could result in higher financing costs for a Spanish banking system already reeling from a housing-market downturn, but won't likely cause a liquidity squeeze.
__________________ Sol, 22:15h del 19 de mayo de 2011. "Un banquero se balanceaba sobre la burbuja inmobiliaria, como veía que no se rompía, fueron a llamar a otro banquero" |
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| A ver si he entendido mal. Si los tipos de interés que los prestamistas extranjeros exigen a los bancos españoles por las cantidades de que son prestatarios aumentan, esto quiere decir que les cobrarían una tasa que cada vez se separaría más del euribor. Como el beneficio de los bancos españoles es el diferencial que cobran a sus deudores (euribor + 0,65%, por ejemplo), su beneficio iría disminuyendo y podría convertirse incluso en pérdidas. ¿Es correcto? Entonces los flujos de dinero que van a salir de España para pagar deuda exterior son pavorosos (argentinos, diría yo). Puesto que los bancos piden a corto para prestar a largo se verían obligados a refinanciar una y otra vez deuda que iría royendo sucesivamente su margen de ganancia o bien... dejar de pedir y quebrar (no creo que el ahorro de los españoles supla la falta de fondos exteriores). Esto es lisa y llanamente el corralito pero con aditivos, colorantes, aromatizantes y emulsionantes. Que alguien más puesto que yo me confirme esto, porque si es cierto, tras ser rebasadas las corrientes burbujistas, las lonchafinistas y las madmaxistas, declaro iniciada la era armagedonista. Última edición por Lampedusa; 05-sep-2008 a las 16:04 |
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__________________ ojito con las inmobiliarios ultimas tablas de cajas actualizadas 2006: First, they ignore you (phase 1) 2007: Then, they laugh at you (phase 2) 200 Then, they fight you (phase 3)2009: Then, you win (phase 4) 2010: Now, capitulación |
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| Spain Economy Watch Hay un articulo nuevo en el "Spain Economy Watch blog". Siempre es interesante pero hoy tiene una supresa: ![]() [...] Ireland in the Forefront What may well surprise many readers of this blog [...] is that it seems to be Ireland and not Spain which has been at the heart of most of the abuse (certainly you wouldn't have known this from the number of articles in the popular press which have been busy pointing the finger at the Spanish banks though). Last week the ECB lenta total of 467 billion euros to European banks,... [...] But when we look at how this money lent by the ECB has been allocated, then it may raise more than a few eyebrows to learn that lending to the much castigated Spanish banks has been "only" running at around 49 billion euros (as of July), while lending to Irish banks was running at 44.1 billion euros according to data from the Irish central bank in Dublin. I say only, since everyone is aware that Spain's banks have a massive problem, so if a facility exists it is only natural that they use it (and I am not sure why this is called "abuse" since Spain's savings banks in particular are under very great pressure, see below, so what are they supposed to do? [...] To put what ahs been happening in perspective, since Ireland is about one tenth the size of Spain, it is as if the Irish banks had been accessing some 440 billion euros in funds. And things get worse, since about half of the funding from the ECB has been going of to the Dublin-based units of lenders from outside Ireland, according to analyst Eamonn Hughes at Goodbody Stockbrokers. HBOS, which has a unit in Ireland, is just one of the British banks that borrowed from the ECB, and hence the sudden drop in its share price yesterday. Earlier year it emerged Macquarie Bank had set up a deal backed by Australian car loans specifically for use at the ECB. But the whistle really was blown in mid August when the UK's largest building society, Nationwide, got a lot of media coverage for saying it was planning to expand into Ireland to take advantage of "funding opportunities". So the first thing to have clear is that the real abuse of the ECB funding has not been coming from Spain, and Spain use of these funds has been more or less policed by Bank of Spain Governor Fernandez Ordoñez, with roughly half the funding going to Spain's savings banks sector (who really do need liquidity, see below), but it is Spain's banking sector who will take a big part of the hit, since while in other countries the funding may have been considered to be "froth on the daydream", Spain's banking system really is struggling. |
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| Noticias frescas!! las restricciones de crédito son una putada para la economía española!! esa perogrullada mas que del Wall Street Journal parece del 20 minutos, hombre por favor...
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Spain Economy Watch pero si no decimos que irlanda este peor o mejor.... (por cierto, citi ha dicho que los bancos tienen que bajar un 30% como en iralnda, que vamos con desfase), pero espera a que ese desfase llegue, ya veras las peticiones como aumentan... lo de pigs va a misa
__________________ ojito con las inmobiliarios ultimas tablas de cajas actualizadas 2006: First, they ignore you (phase 1) 2007: Then, they laugh at you (phase 2) 200 Then, they fight you (phase 3)2009: Then, you win (phase 4) 2010: Now, capitulación |
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| HBOS, which has a unit in Ireland, is just one of the British banks that borrowed from the ECB, and hence the sudden drop in its share price yesterday. Earlier year it emerged Macquarie Bank had set up a deal backed by Australian car loans specifically for use at the ECB. But the whistle really was blown in mid August when the UK's largest building society, Nationwide, got a lot of media coverage for saying it was planning to expand into Ireland to take advantage of "funding opportunities". ¿¿¿Estaré entendiendo mal lo que dice el artículo, o es verdad que los bancos ingleses están utilizando sus filiales irlandesas para buscar en el BCE el dinero que el Bank of England no les presta??? |
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HBOS, which has a unit in Ireland, is just one of the British banks that borrowed from the ECB, and hence the sudden drop in its share price yesterday. Earlier year it emerged Macquarie Bank had set up a deal backed by Australian car loans specifically for use at the ECB. But the whistle really was blown in mid August when the UK's largest building society, Nationwide, got a lot of media coverage for saying it was planning to expand into Ireland to take advantage of "funding opportunities". Yo he leido lo mismo... Explica una parte del "crecimiento" en Irlanda, pero al mismo tiempo (se infla el total, parte va via Irlanda al R.U., la banca española mantiene el porcentaje), empeora la situacion real de la banca española...
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