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Para seguir con la tradición, hoy Citi cae un 4%, Fannie un 11%, Freddie un 19%, Lehman un 9%, Mbia un 10%, Merrill un 8%, Wachovia un 6%. ¡Vivan los cortos!

Ahora mismo: BAC un -6,31%, Citi un -5,5%, Fannie un -12,7%, Freddie un -23,5%, Lehman un -11,2%, Mbia un -11,5%, Merrill un -9,7%, Wachovia un -7,40%.
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Dios nos pille confesados... o... AGARRAOS LAS KALANDRAKAS!!!!! BIG TIME!!!

Lo dicho, el Estulin lo clavó!!

Todavía hay mas percal: http://finance.yahoo.com/losers?e=us
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Buen cierre en USA ¿no?

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Cierre...

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¿ENRON one more time?
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cierre???? son y 10... japon tiene que perde de una vez esta noche el soporte milenario
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Freddie Mac y Fannie Mae acumulan caídas cercanas al 70 en lo que va del año | Noticias de la Bolsa




Freddie Mac y Fannie Mae acumulan caídas cercanas al 70% en lo que va del año



Nueva York, 9 jul (EFE).- Freddie Mac y Fannie Mae, las dos grandes agencias semiestatales compradoras de hipotecas en Estados Unidos, acumulan caídas cercanas al 70 por ciento en lo que va del año, después de que hoy perdieran más del 20 y 10 por ciento, respectivamente.

Mientras el Gobierno estadounidense estudia reformar esas firmas hipotecarias, duramente afectadas por la crisis hipotecaria e inmobiliaria que atraviesa el país, su depreciación se precipitó esta semana cuando el banco de inversión Lehman Brothers aseguró que ambas necesitarían inyecciones de capital multimillonarias en los próximos meses.

Según los cálculos de ese banco de inversión, entre las dos podrían necesitar hasta 75.000 millones de dólares en capital adicional para atender un cambio en las normas contables de esas compañías, aunque cabe la posibilidad de que el Congreso de Estados Unidos acuerde algún tipo de exención.

De tener que recaudar fondos, las compañías, que ya acumulan grandes pérdidas, podrían verse obligadas a vender acciones, lo que diluiría la participación de los actuales accionistas.

Sólo durante la sesión de hoy, los títulos de Freddie Mac bajaron en la Bolsa de Nueva York un 23,8 por ciento, y se quedaron en torno a los 10 dólares, un precio similar al que tenían en 1992.

Mientras, su firma hermana, Fannie Mae, descendió el 13,1 por ciento y cerró la sesión en 13,11 dólares por acción.

En lo que va del año, Freddie Mac ha caído en bolsa el 69,88 por ciento, mientras que Fannie Mae ha perdido el 67,2 por ciento, lo que las convierte en dos de las mayores víctimas empresariales de la crisis generada por las hipotecas de alto riesgo en Estados Unidos y la caída del sector inmobiliario.


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Según un Wall Street Journal informe, el Treasury le preocupa lo suficiente sobre la viabilidad de Fannie y Freddie que se han discutido los planes de contingencia en caso de una posible quiebra.

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Credit Writedowns: US government discusses Fannie and Freddie bankruptcy
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Según un Wall Street Journal informe, el Treasury le preocupa lo suficiente sobre la viabilidad de Fannie y Freddie que se han discutido los planes de contingencia en caso de una posible quiebra.

En Inglés:

Credit Writedowns: US government discusses Fannie and Freddie bankruptcy


Por muy largo que sea, copypasteolo:

Wednesday, July 09, 2008
US government discusses Fannie and Freddie bankruptcy
According to a Wall Street Journal report, the Treasury is concerned enough about the viability of Fannie and Freddie that they have discussed contingency plans in the case of potential bankruptcy.

Given the level of risk these two are taking on their poorly capitalized balance sheets in order to provide liquidity to the mortgage market, it is only a matter of time before the Federal government has to step in. Massive write-downs and the need to raise capital should be a foregone conclusion by this time. Without a Federal guarantee neither of these outfits is a AAA company.

The US government had better think of a solution and get involved fast before the situation at Freddie and Fannie destabilizes the market any further.


U.S. Mulls Future of Fannie, Freddie Administration Ramps Up Contingency
Planning as Mortgage Giants Struggle
By JAMES R. HAGERTY, DEBORAH SOLOMON and DAMIAN PALETTA
July 10, 2008

The Bush administration has held talks about what to do in the event mortgage giants Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac falter, according to three people familiar with the matter, as the stock prices of both companies continue to fall sharply.


These discussions have been going on for months and are part of normal contingency planning that the Treasury Department and other financial regulators regularly undertake. The talks have become more serious recently given the financial woes of the shareholder-owned, government-chartered companies, whose stability is vital to the ********ing of the nation's housing market, these people say.

The government doesn't expect the entities to fail and no rescue plan is imminent, these people said. Government officials and market analysts expect both companies will be able to raise large amounts of capital relatively easily. Treasury officials are nonetheless talking about what the government could -- or should -- do if Fannie and Freddie become so pressed that they are unable to borrow money and continue operating.

On Wednesday, Freddie shares fell 24% to close on the New York Stock Exchange at $10.26. Fannie shares dropped 13% to $15.31. For both companies, it was the lowest close in more than 15 years. Fannie's share price is down 76% from a year ago and Freddie is down 83%.

The shares of the two companies have plummeted for several reasons. Investors are worried they will suffer bigger losses as housing prices continue to fall and mortgage defaults rise. Stock-market investors are also worried they will need to raise significant amounts of capital to cover those losses. For stock investors, that means the value of their ownership stakes in the company will be cut. Bond investors continue to lend to both companies, though they are also demanding slightly higher interest rates.

Fannie and Freddie's decline helped drag the broad stock market into bear market territory Wednesday. The blue-chip Dow Jones Industrial Average, already in a bear market, tumbled 236.77 points, or 2.1%, to 11147.44. The Standard & Poor's Composite Index of 500 stocks, which includes Fannie and Freddie, had hovered above the 20% decline that marks a bear market but broke through on Wednesday, falling to 20.5% below its peak, and to its lowest point since July 21, 2006.

Fannie and Freddie's health is of deep concern to policy makers because of the critical role they play in the housing market. The two companies own or guarantee about $5 trillion of mortgages or nearly half of all U.S. home-mortgage debt outstanding. The government has increasingly leaned on the companies to provide critical stability to a housing market crippled by falling home prices and banks too nervous to lend.

If a loss of confidence among investors made it impossible for Fannie and Freddie to continue supporting the mortgage market, "the government would have to step in," said Douglas Elmendorf, an economist at the Brookings Institution in Washington.

"They can't be allowed to fail," said Peter Wallison, a former Treasury Department general counsel. "The losses would extend through so much of our economy, and so much of the world economy. There is simply no way that the United States government can let it happen."

Both Fannie and Freddie declined to comment on the government discussions.


It's unclear what the government might do to either forestall or mitigate any potential problems. Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson has said in the past the government will not back the debt of Fannie and Freddie.

Options mentioned by analysts include a credit line from the Federal Reserve, an equity investment by the government or an explicit federal guarantee of the mortgage companies' $1.5 trillion in debt.

The most likely scenario is that Fannie and Freddie will raise capital from private investors, even though that will dilute the interests of current shareholders, said Josh Rosner, an analyst at Graham Fisher & Co., a New York research boutique.

So far, the companies have been able to tap the credit markets at relatively low cost, despite jitters over their financial condition. On Wednesday, Fannie Mae issued $3 billion in two-year bonds that were priced to yield 3.272%. That was 0.74 percentage point more than yields on comparable Treasury bonds, more than double the gap between those two yields a year ago.

In case they are unable to attract sufficient private money, though, the government needs a contingency plan to shore them up, Mr. Rosner said.

"All the [regulatory] agencies are looking at what kind of actions may need to be taken," said William Seidman, a former bank regulator who served as chairman of Resolution Trust Corp., an agency created by Congress to sell the assets of failed savings and loans in the aftermath of that late-1980s financial crisis.

Unprecedented Thinking

The current credit crisis has prompted some unprecedented thinking from national policy makers about how to maintain the integrity of the financial system. Since the near-collapse of investment bank Bear Stearns Cos. earlier this year, both the Treasury and the Fed have been pondering how to unwind a failed institution in an orderly way.

The most recent conversations have not only focused on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac. Treasury officials have run through multiple different scenarios, including what would happen in the event of the failure of a big hedge fund or large commercial bank.

In addition, since the crisis struck last August, officials at Treasury, the Fed and other agencies have been discussing contingency plans known as "break-the-glass" ideas, referring to what takes place right before someone pulls a fire alarm. The plans were meant to prepare policy makers for the unlikely event of a broad financial crisis.

Any move to prop up the mortgage giants would likely set off a political firestorm. The two companies have long been a target for some Republicans who contend that Fannie and Freddie have profited from an implicit backing they receive from the government.

Congress created Fannie and Freddie to provide a steady flow of funds for home mortgages. Though the Treasury regularly states that the U.S. government doesn't guarantee their debts, most investors believe the government would have to bail the companies out in a crisis. This "implicit guarantee" allows them to borrow money at lower interest rates, only modestly higher than those paid by the Treasury.

The Bush administration has long worried about the risk posed by the companies, saying they have the potential to destabilize the entire financial market. The administration has been pushing for regulatory reforms to help mitigate the risk, including a new, more powerful regulator to oversee them. Congress is in the final stages of considering legislation to create that new regulator, which the Senate could pass Thursday.

On Tuesday, Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson said the best thing policy makers could do to restore confidence in the housing market would be to pass legislation overhauling supervision of the two companies. Mr. Paulson views the companies as crucial to housing and financial markets.

"What's the No. 1 thing that could be done?" he said in a speech. "What's the thing that will make the most difference? By far, by far it is the confidence that will be injected in that marketplace and the secondary marketplace through those institutions when reform is done."

Constant Access

To continue bolstering the mortgage market, the companies need constant access to the debt markets. If investors suddenly decide they don't want to buy the companies' debt, the companies might have to unload some of their holdings, including mortgage-backed securities. Investors have already lost confidence in mortgage-backed securities other than those guaranteed by Fannie, Freddie and the Federal Housing Administration. A dumping of mortgage-backed securities would raise interest rates for people seeking home loans.

The Treasury has been worrying about such a dire scenario for years. In a 2006 speech, Emil Henry, then a Treasury assistant secretary, likened a failure of one of the companies to a "single gunshot setting off an avalanche."

Fannie and Freddie have suffered combined losses of more than $11 billion in the nine months ended March 31. Analysts expect the toll to worsen as more homeowners default.

Defaults on loans owned or guaranteed by the two companies remain fairly modest but are rising quickly. Fannie has reported that 1.22% of the single-family loans it owns or guarantees were 90 days or more overdue in April, up from 0.62% a year ago. For Freddie, the delinquency rate is 0.81%, up from 0.49% a year earlier.

There is at least one precedent for the government making concrete a financial obligation that was previously only assumed. During the crisis caused by the failure of savings-and-loan institutions in the 1980s, Congress passed the Competitive Equality Banking Act of 1987, making the government legally liable for obligations of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Congress had previously adopted a joint resolution that the government would support the deposit insurance fund if necessary, but the pledge wasn't binding.

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Fannie Mae, Freddie Losses Make Them `Insolvent,' Poole Says

July 10 (Bloomberg) -- Borrowing at Fannie Mae, the U.S. government-sponsored mortgage company, has never been so expensive and it may not get better any time soon.

Fannie Mae paid a record yield relative to Treasuries on the sale of $3 billion in two-year notes yesterday amid concern the biggest provider of financing for U.S. home loans won't have enough capital to weather the worst housing slump since the Great Depression. The company's credit-default swaps show traders are treating the AAA rated debt as if it were five steps lower. Fannie Mae shares tumbled 13 percent yesterday in New York to the lowest level in almost 14 years.

Chances are increasing that the U.S. may need to bail out Fannie Mae and the smaller Freddie Mac, former St. Louis Federal Reserve President William Poole said in an interview. Freddie Mac owed $5.2 billion more than its assets were worth in the first quarter, making it insolvent under fair value accounting rules, he said. The fair value of Fannie Mae's assets fell 66 percent to $12.2 billion, data provided by the Washington-based company show, and may be negative next quarter, Poole said.

``Congress ought to recognize that these firms are insolvent, that it is allowing these firms to continue to exist as bastions of privilege, financed by the taxpayer,'' Poole, 71, who left the Fed in March, said in an interview.

Fair value accounting measures a company's net worth if it had to liquidate all of its assets to repay liabilities. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, both of whom have the implicit backing of the government, make money by borrowing in the bond market and reinvesting the proceeds in higher-yielding mortgages and securities backed by home loans.

`Inflection' Point

Lawmakers in Washington may question Federal Reserve Chairman Ben S. Bernanke and Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson at a 10 a.m. hearing today about the financial health of the companies and whether they jeopardize the financial system.

``At some point we're going to reach that inflection, where the government is going to have to either guarantee explicitly or Fannie and Freddie are going to have be left to fend for themselves,'' Peter Boockvar, an equity strategist at Miller Tabak & Co. in New York, said in an interview with Bloomberg Television. ``We're getting to that point where a decision has to be made by Washington.''

The plunge in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac yesterday in New York Stock Exchange trading led financial shares to their biggest decline in six years and sent the Standard & Poor's 500 Index into its first bear market since 2002. Fannie Mae shares dropped $2.31 to $15.31 and Freddie Mac declined $3.20 to $10.26, a decline of 24 percent.

`Well-Capitalized'

The government is counting on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, which own or guarantee about half the $12 trillion in home loans outstanding, to help revive the housing market. Congress lifted growth restrictions on the companies, eased their capital requirements and allowed them to buy bigger ``jumbo mortgages'' to spur demand for home loans as competitors fled the market.

Paulson said on July 8 he was pleased with Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac's efforts to raise capital. Bernanke said the same day the firms need to be ``strong, well-regulated, well- capitalized'' to provide credit ``without posing undue risks to the financial system or taxpayer.''

``We are managing our business and maintaining a capital position that will allow us to fulfill our congressionally chartered mission now and in the future,'' Brian Faith, a spokesman for Fannie Mae, said.

Poole is ``a long-time critic,'' said Sharon McHale, a spokeswoman for McLean, Virginia-based Freddie Mac.

``Freddie Mac is doing exactly what Congress intended when it chartered the company and, more recently, when it passed the Economic Stimulus Act,'' McHale said. ``We are well capitalized and positioned to continue to serve our vital housing mission.''

Government Ties

While leading the St. Louis Fed, Poole roiled markets in 2003 when he said the government should consider severing its implied backing of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac and said the companies lack the capital to weather financial market disruptions. In 2006 and 2007 he called for lawmakers to strip Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac of their charters.

Congress created Freddie Mac and expanded Fannie Mae in 1970 to promote home buying in the U.S. The companies' charters give the Treasury the authority to buy as much as $2.25 billion in each of their securities in the event of possible default.

The government will likely be forced to take over the companies because of the mortgage meltdown, Poole said.

``We know in a crisis the Federal Reserve tap would be open,'' said Poole, now a senior fellow at the Cato Institute.

$20 Billion Raised

The bailout of Bear Stearns Cos. by JPMorgan Chase & Co., arranged by the Fed, demonstrates the government's unwillingness to allow ``large, systemically important'' financial institutions to fail, he said. Bear Stearns collapsed after customers fled amid speculation the company faced a cash shortage.

``I worry about those institutions,'' retired Richmond Fed President Alfred Broaddus said. ``They are huge. They dwarf the Bear Stearns issue. In the very worst case scenario, I don't know how you do it other than extend money and the public takes the loss.''

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac have raised a combined $20 billion since December to cover losses of more than $11 billion generated since the credit crisis began last year. Freddie Mac has yet to raise a planned $5.5 billion, scheduled for mid-year.

The companies have access to the Fed's so-called Fedwire payments system allowing them to access funding if needed, said Vincent Reinhart, the Fed's chief monetary-policy strategist from 2001 until September 2007.

Pre-2006 Mortgages

They can withstand the slump in part because most of their investments are mortgages made before 2006 when lending standards were tighter, making them less likely to default, said Eileen Fahey, a Chicago-based analyst at Fitch Ratings.

``We do not believe they are technically insolvent,'' Fahey said. ``People seem to lose sight of the fact that a majority of the mortgages that they are holding and are guaranteeing were originated pre-2006.''

Comments by the companies' regulator this week that they are adequately capitalized also eased concern, said Lawrence Yun, chief economist of the National Association of Realtors in Washington. The companies have about $80 billion of regulatory capital supporting $5.2 trillion of mortgages.

``Just given the size of the two companies, surely the government would not stand aside'' and let them fail, Yun said.

Record Yield

Fannie Mae sold $3 billion of two-year notes yesterday to yield 74 basis points more than Treasuries. A basis point is 0.01 percentage point. That's the widest spread since Fannie Mae first sold two-year notes in 2000 and triple what it paid in June 2006.

The price of credit-default swaps, contracts used to speculate on the creditworthiness of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, doubled in the past two months to more than 80 basis points for the senior debt, according to London-based CMA Datavision.

The median credit-default swap on debt rated Aaa by Moody's was 26 as of basis points as of July 8, data from the credit rating firm's strategy group show. It was 76 basis points for debt rated A2.

Credit-default swaps are financial instruments based on bonds and loans that are used to speculate on a company's ability to repay debt. They pay the buyer face value in exchange for the underlying securities or the cash equivalent should a borrower fail to adhere to its debt agreements. A basis point on a contract protecting $10 million of debt from default for five years is equivalent to $1,000 a year.

La cuarta oleada de problemas financieros toca a los gigantes inmobiliarios de EEUU. Como tendrán que ampliar capital, los inversores huyen. Algunos creen que tendrán que ser nacionalizadas.

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