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Refused · #1 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 20:56

Los "inversoreh" han decidido que ya es hora de "estrangular" a otra generacion entera, en otro pais, ya que la de aqui se encuentra ya en "coma profundo":

Se confirma el Boom en Polonia:

el precio medio de los pisos nuevos en varsovia sube un 29%
cinco días, miércoles 25 oct 06 | opina sobre esta noticia

uno de los mercados extranjeros que más inversión inmobiliaria española ha atraído es polonia. en varsovia, su capital, el precio medio de los pisos nuevos ha crecido en sólo un año un 29% (hasta los 1.405 euros/m2), según el informe 'vivienda residencial en varsovia' elaborado por cb richard ellis. la consultora espera nuevas alzas de precio a medio plazo. el parque residencial de la ciudad asciende actualmente a unas 760.000 viviendas, de las que 14.000 se entregaron en 2005. aunque el ritmo de entrega tiende a acelerarse, las dificultades de encontrar nuevos suelos edificables mantendrán la oferta muy por debajo de la demanda. el informe prevé que el 79% de las viviendas nuevas en la capital polaca se venderá en fase de proyecto o construcción

El_Emigrante · #2 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 21:05

no me extraña en absoluto...
Varsovia es un crater... con el centro lleno de espacios vacios aun a causa de las bombas de hace 50 años atrás, esperando que venga alguien a construir.
Recuerdo en febrero del 2005 a unos peces gordos diciendo:
"Aqui lo vamos a inundar de pisos, llama al de Century 21"

Especulador_inmobiliario · #3 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 21:13

Pero esto se sabía hace muchos años.

Ya antes de que entrasen en la UE se estaba diciendo que aquello iba empezar a subir bestialmente en cuando entrasen.

Había inversores esperando a que se diese el pistoletazo de salida, para empezar a comprar como locos. (antes de ser de la UE en algunos países no dejaban comprar a extranjeros).

Plaentxiator · #4 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 21:45

Los "inversoreh" han decidido que ya es hora de "estrangular" a otra generacion entera, en otro pais, ya que la de aqui se encuentra ya en "coma profundo":

Espero, por su bien, que reaccionen antes que nosotros. En el caso de nuestra generación (25-35 años), me temo que ya es demasiado tarde: se la han cargado totalmente.

( | )_euirbor===>( O ) · #5 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 22:16

Hostia pero que hijos de *uta, no les vale con haberse cargado las ilusiones de mucha gente aquí que se van a joder a los de varsovia, joder, esto es terrorismo político, no hacen nada por la gente, dejan a sus anchas que mafiosos de aqui se vaya allí, que sepan los de varsovia que se podría decir que les han declarado la guerra, pero sin violencia, los va a desplumar y se irán a buscar más primos a otros paises. No es justo somos marionetas

poszi · #6 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 22:18

I'm sorry I know Spanish too little to write in your language.

I'm from Poland (but temporarily living in USA) and I can tell you that the bubble in Poland is absolutely crazy, especially this year. There are some foreign investors (mostly from Spain, Ireland and UK, sounds familiar

) but nevertheless the demand is in large part domestic. Real estate "analysts" spread fear and panic claiming that the boom would continue and Poland would mirror the fate of Spain and Polish prices would match Spanish some day despite the salaries which are a fraction of western ones. People take crazy mortgages, mortgages in local currency are too expensive for most of the people (even though the central bank interest rate is at record low: 4%) so 3/4 mortgages are in Swiss francs. Banks give mortgages to almost everybody and debt which is 10 times or more of the annual income is typical. In contrast to Spain, the boom is felt only in big cities. Small towns with large unemployment have still very low prices. The construction is increasing but is still rather low. About 110000 dwellings a year for a 38 million country is not that impressive (however, the population is declining both due to migration and birth/deaths ratio).

A crash in Spain would definitely help to deflate the bubble in Poland.

( | )_euirbor===>( O ) · #7 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 22:43

¿are you sure? God ear you
Let us hope that the spanish bubble explodes then (We are to the delay of it)and to be able to help your country.

pardon by my rural English

luarca84 · #8 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 22:43

Iniciado por poszi

I'm sorry I know Spanish too little to write in your language.

I'm from Poland (but temporarily living in USA) and I can tell you that the bubble in Poland is absolutely crazy, especially this year. There are some foreign investors (mostly from Spain, Ireland and UK, sounds familiar ) but nevertheless the demand is in large part domestic. Real estate "analysts" spread fear and panic claiming that the boom would continue and Poland would mirror the fate of Spain and Polish prices would match Spanish some day despite the salaries which are a fraction of western ones. People take crazy mortgages, mortgages in local currency are too expensive for most of the people (even though the central bank interest rate is at record low: 4%) so 3/4 mortgages are in Swiss francs. Banks give mortgages to almost everybody and debt which is 10 times or more of the annual income is typical. In contrast to Spain, the boom is felt only in big cities. Small towns with large unemployment have still very low prices. The construction is increasing but is still rather low. About 110000 dwellings a year for a 38 million country is not that impressive (however, the population is declining both due to migration and birth/deaths ratio).

A crash in Spain would definitely help to deflate the bubble in Poland.

Hasta los polacos leen este foro y se enteran de la burbuja española!!

El_Emigrante · #9 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 23:07

Iniciado por poszi

I'm sorry I know Spanish too little to write in your language.

I'm from Poland (but temporarily living in USA) and I can tell you that the bubble in Poland is absolutely crazy, especially this year. There are some foreign investors (mostly from Spain, Ireland and UK, sounds familiar ) but nevertheless the demand is in large part domestic. Real estate "analysts" spread fear and panic claiming that the boom would continue and Poland would mirror the fate of Spain and Polish prices would match Spanish some day despite the salaries which are a fraction of western ones. People take crazy mortgages, mortgages in local currency are too expensive for most of the people (even though the central bank interest rate is at record low: 4%) so 3/4 mortgages are in Swiss francs. Banks give mortgages to almost everybody and debt which is 10 times or more of the annual income is typical. In contrast to Spain, the boom is felt only in big cities. Small towns with large unemployment have still very low prices. The construction is increasing but is still rather low. About 110000 dwellings a year for a 38 million country is not that impressive (however, the population is declining both due to migration and birth/deaths ratio).

A crash in Spain would definitely help to deflate the bubble in Poland.

czesc czesc!

jak sa mas?? to je fakt strasne! ale to bude bit yesnie dalsi strasne!! ty pockam vy bit na eura, a budes koukit co dal nahoru muze cena prznit a co dal rihle vy penize odchod!

pszeprazam moje strasne super-impreza polski ale ja faks liebem polska!

pa!

El_Emigrante · #10 (**permalink**) 27-oct-2006, 23:07

Iniciado por poszi

I'm sorry I know Spanish too little to write in your language.

I'm from Poland (but temporarily living in USA) and I can tell you that the bubble in Poland is absolutely crazy, especially this year. There are some foreign investors (mostly from Spain, Ireland and UK, sounds familiar ) but nevertheless the demand is in large part domestic. Real estate "analysts" spread fear and panic claiming that the boom would continue and Poland would mirror the fate of Spain and Polish prices would match Spanish some day despite the salaries which are a fraction of western ones. People take crazy mortgages, mortgages in local currency are too expensive for most of the people (even though the central bank interest rate is at record low: 4%) so 3/4 mortgages are in Swiss francs. Banks give mortgages to almost everybody and debt which is 10 times or more of the annual income is typical. In contrast to Spain, the boom is felt only in big cities. Small towns with large unemployment have still very low prices. The construction is increasing but is still rather low. About 110000 dwellings a year for a 38 million country is not that impressive (however, the population is declining both due to migration and birth/deaths ratio).

A crash in Spain would definitely help to deflate the bubble in Poland.

czesc czesc!

jak sa mas?? to je fakt strasne! ale to bude bit yesnie dalsi strasne!! ty pockam vy bit na eura, a budes koukit co dal nahoru muze cena prznit a co dal rihle vy penize odchod!

pszeprazam moje strasne super-impreza polski ale ja fakt liebem polska!

pa!

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