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Gonzalo Lira: How Likely is QE-Three?

Es un economista chileno que por desgracia solo escribe en ingles, pero bueno, con un poco de esfuerzo se entiende.

Sus últimos posts dan miedo ... sobre todo el último.

Ya sabeis que lo que pasa en USA luego a los pocos meses ocurre en España.


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If the Fed ends QE-2 in June as they have said they will, who will take up the slack? Who will purchase between $75 and $100 billion worth of Treasury bonds at yields of 3.5% for the 10-year?

Is there someone?

Anyone?

The answer is, No one will take up the slack.

Who, Japan? They’ve got some well-known troubles of their own—they’re all about selling Treasuries and buying up yens, both now and for the foreseeable future.

The Chinese? They’ve been quietly exiting Treasuries for a couple of years now, and going into every commodity known to man.

Europe? Are you serious—Europe? Please don’t make me laugh that hard—it hurts.

The fact is, there is no one outside the United States that I can think of who would willingly buy Treasury bonds—not to the tune of +$75 billion a month.

Therefore, if no one outside the United States would willingly give money to Washington to fund the deficit, then someone inside the U.S. will have to step up.

The obvious-obvious-obvious solution to this mess is for the Federal government to stop spending its way to oblivion—but does anyone realistically see this happening?

Therefore, as Spock always sez, if you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be the truth.

If foreign sources of funding will not cover the Federal government’s deficit after June 2011, and Washington will definitely not cut spending in any sort of realistic sense, then there really are only two—and only two—possibilities:
• The indefinite continuation of QE by the Federal Reserve.
• Or the requisitioning of private retirement accounts and pension funds.
Don’t dismiss the second possibility out of hand—think it over.

What pool of money is just sitting there, not doing much, while being legally barred from its owners? What pool of money is easily accessed, yet is large enough to fund the deficit?

The retirement accounts of the American people: Both individual private accounts, and pension funds.

After all, the total for all pension monies is roughly 100% of GDP (this includes Social Security). And the Federal government has already raided the “Social Security lock box”—that box is stuffed with Treasury IOU’s.

So the Federal government might well turn to the private sector for cash. The Federal government might conceivably claim that ongoing funding needs require that every single 401(k) and IRA divest from its portfolio of stocks and bonds, and be fully invested in Treasuries.

This could be accomplished very easily, from a practical standpoint—just inform banks, and have them turn over to the Federal government all your mutual funds and stocks you agonized over, and get long-term Treasury bonds of nominal equal value in exchange.

401(k)’s and IRA’s would be the first ones the Federal government would go after—for the obvious reason that union pension funds have the union’s political muscle. But individuals? They have no political machine. So they’re screwed.

Anyway, the language used for this maneuver by the Treasury department would make it difficult for a lot of (unaffected) people to get upset over the situation: The Treasury department wouldn’t call this process “retirement account confiscation”. They’d call it something innocuous, like “retirement asset swap”—or better yet, throw in some patriotic bullshit (indeed, the last refuge of the scoundrel) and call it “Americ-Aide Asset Swap”—or even better: Call it “Help America Retirement Treasury Bond Program”—otherwise known as HART-bonds. (Awww!!! Probably maudlin enough to get Geithner an appearance on fucking Oprah.)

There might be short-term political damage, but like losing your virginity or carrying out state-sponsored torture programs, it would be the necessary start for a slide that will never end. After this first “retirement asset swap” carried out on the 401(k)’s and IRA’s, the Treasury department would start doing more of this to ever-bigger pension funds, until eventually all retirement assets would be converted into Treasury bonds.

Hey, they did it in Argentina. And as Yves Smith always sez, America has become Argentina, but with nukes.

Now, this is one possibility, of the only two which I can see.

The other possibility, of course, is that the Federal Reserve will not end Quantitative Easing-2 come June. The Fed will extend the deficit monetization indefinitely. The Fed will be under the mistaken impression that this will somehow save the U.S. economy. (The best metaphor I’ve been able to come up with for this situation is, the Federal government is like a junkie who’s already OD’ed—and the Federal Reserve is trying to “save” him by shooting him up with even more heroin.)

So between these two possibilities—confiscating retirement accounts and forcing some sort of Treasury bond asset swap, or an endless continuation of QE—which is easier?

Obviously QE-three.

Therefore, that’s what I think is going to happen: QE money-printing as far as the eye can see.

Well, look on the bright side: At least you’ll get to keep your ever-shrinking retirement nest egg. Bully for you!

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Como Argentina.

En USA:

- Las principales pensiones: son publicas y se financian con cotizaciones obligatorias.

- Despues estan las privadas que son importantes ya que cuentan con fuertes exenciones fiscales.

El coste electoral puede grande a Obama si permite que se haga este robo masivo.

Por lo tanto, QE3 e intereses mas altos. Los acreedores mas nerviosos. ¿Estallara el temido repudio del dolar y su hiperinflacion?.

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Hay que puntualizar que el o es inclusivo.

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Interesante, no parece absurdo. Probablemente en la FED se estén tirando de los pelos por lo de Japón (o llamando a los de la CIA para echarles la bronca por provocarlo, ya se sabe que se llevan mucha gresca entre departamentos ahí :ironic: ).

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Me chirría bastante el 'sez' por cierto.

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Estoy de acuerdo con su conclusión:

Si bien no estoy de acuerdo en que esta medida provoque hiperinflación, ya que ciertos agentes son los que se quedan con toda la pasta impresa.
Lo que ocurrirá es una polarización de la sociedad, pocos ricos-muchos pobres.
Esto es extensible a TODOS los países del mundo.
El mundo ha dejado de crecer, pero el sistema financiero necesita crecer siempre. La forma de lograrlo es imprimir pero no haciendo llegar a la gente el dinero, ya que eso provocaría hiperinflación. Se lo quedan unos pocos mientras se produce una inflación dentro de unos márgenes.
Al sistema financiero le quedan 2 años máximo.
Al mundo igual le queda aún menos.

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Parece bastante claro que sólo es cuestión de tiempo que tengamos otro QE porque el coste político del resto de medidas también parece demasiado alto, además de que me imagino la respuesta de las empresas cuando quieran el dinero de sus planes de pensiones que ellas mismas utilizan para otros fines...

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La verdad es que da miedo leer a Gonzalo Lira. Cualquiera de las dos opciones que menciona:

es un desastre. No hay escapatoria. Es esquema ponzi empieza a venirse abajo...

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¿Miedo de que un sistema injusto se vaya a la mierda? Concluyo que Vd. es banquero.

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Y los "gilis" cubanos intentando salir de la Isla, porque a 80 millas está el "paraíso"..que ven por la tele.

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Dejalo hombre! para una vez que escriben una palabra como se pronuncia