Además de los neo-con, los demócratas tb están como locos intentandole desprestigiar (en el artículo lo relacionan con neo-nazis y racistas). La verdad es que Ron Paul llega a gente de los dos lados y sobretodo a los jovenes, y eso les preocupa.

ht tp://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/2/24/840350/-Ron-Paul-Is-A-White-Supremacist


Lo puse en el hilo de auditar la Fed, pero así lo ven los de este hilo tb.

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Hace tiempo que sabíamos que iban acabar usando el cartucho del racismo y el supremacismo blanco, a falta de cualquier argumento objetivo con el que rebatir al gran Ron Paul solo les queda recurrir a la calumnia y al insulto facil, y era invitable que tarde o temprano apareciesen los voceros de siempre con el topicazo del racismo y el neonazismo.

Por un lado es duro y puede ser perjudicial para Ron Paul, ya se sabe, la táctica de calumnia que algo queda, pero por otro lado aquello no es España y no es tan facil calumniar gratuitamente y que quede, con lo que todo este asunto lo que realmente demuestra es que Ron Paul ha alcanzado por fin un status que hace peligrar a la actual tirania oligarquica de los EEUU y eso les pone muy nerviosos, por lo que si Ron Paulconsigue salir con exito al paso de estas lamentables calumnias, saldrá tremendamente más fortalecido si cabe.

Ron Paul y sus ideas son el futuro de los EEUU, y desde luego con la decpeción que esta suponiendo para muchos el sr. Obama, el verdadero y ansiado cambio en dicho país lo representa este congresista tejano, aglutiana a todos los amantes de la libertad, ya sean republicanos como democratas, se ha convertido en la voz del pueblo, y es el que más cerca esta de él, no solo es de los pocos que avisó de la crisis sino que es el único capaz de buscar una salida a la misma sin pasar por el desangramiento economico del pueblo americano, y eso poco a poco lo estan viendo los votantes, ya hartos y decepcionados de una clase politica vendida a Wall Street y a los Banksters, y de la que él no solo no forma parte sino que es una de las pocas voces que se opone a ellos desde las mismisimas instituciones del estado, por lo que solo lo podrán parar de una manera, la cual no quiero ni mentarla, de lo contrario Ron Paul será el proximo presidente de los Estados Unidos de America

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"Si el pueblo americano permite un día que los bancos privados controlen su moneda, los bancos y todas las instituciones que florecerán en torno a ellos privarán a la gente de toda posesión, primero por medio de la inflación, seguida por la recesión, hasta el día en que sus hijos se despertarán sin casa y sin techo sobre la tierra que sus padres conquistaron”

Y aquí un buen artículo sobre Ron Paul. Muy interesante.

Y plantea una muy buena pregunta: Si tan poco importante es Ron Paul para la elección a candidato republicano como repiten, porque los constantes ataques?

Y en el link un video recopilatorio de como Fox intenta quitar importancia a la victoria de Ron Paul en el CPAC.

Ron Paul never thunders, but he's a lightning rod anyway | NJ.com

Ron Paul never thunders, but he's a lightning rod anyway
By Paul Mulshine/The Star Ledger
February 25, 2010, 5:40AM

ron-paul.jpgAP Photo/David Zalubowski Ron Paul The talking heads of America are outraged at Ron Paul once again. They dismissed him in 2007, dissed him in 2008 and ignored him in 2009. And now he’s got the nerve to win the presidential straw poll at the Conservative Political Action Conference held in Washington last weekend.

The winner of that poll is often considered the consensus leader in the race for the next GOP presidential nomination. When Mitt Romney won it last time around, he was seen as something of a sure thing in an otherwise weak field.

Well the 2012 field is even weaker than last time around. But across the spectrum, the pundits agree that the Texas congressman has no business being in it. Newsweek proclaimed Paul "probably won’t run again for president in 2012 and almost certainly wouldn’t win the Republican nomination if he did." The Fox News crowd repeated the "Paul is dead" mantra as if the congressman were a Beatle. As for Glenn Beck, who spoke at CPAC, he termed the winner of 31 percent of the audience’s votes "a crazy, kooky guy."

Quite an achievement for a man who may be the single most unexciting speaker in American politics today. I mean that as high praise. The U.S. Constitution is a dry, unemotional ********** And Paul, as its leading proponent in Congress, is a dry, unemotional guy.

So why do his opponents get worked up into such a fervor?

I’ve been mystified by that since early in 2007, when I first interviewed him. Even though Paul had announced for the Republican nomination for president, I didn’t have to go through a press secretary to contact him. I just asked around and got his home number. We had a pleasant chat about the Constitution.

"Virtually everything the federal government does is unconstitutional, isn’t it?" I asked.

"Basically, that’s pretty true," Paul replied.

Paul assured me that if elected, he would do almost nothing. I like that sort of thing, but it’s hard to put on a bumper sticker. I expected him to fade away in a field that contained crowd-pleasers like affable hayseed Mike Huckabee and 9/11 fetishist Rudy Giuliani.

I got that wrong. It turned out that young people went crazy over the then-70-year-old candidate. They raised millions for him on the internet. And his candidacy really took off after a debate in which Paul pointed out that Republicans such as Ronald Reagan had wisely avoided getting involved in the Mideast. "I think Reagan was right," said Paul. "We don’t understand the irrationality of Middle Eastern politics."

This threw Giuliani into one of those fits of 9/11 nostalgia for which he is infamous. The so-called "neo" conservatives at Fox News promptly got into the act and splashed Paul’s comments all over the screen. When that just made him more popular, they reacted by trying to write him out of the race, going so far as to exclude him from a later debate.

This CPAC poll drove Fox into yet another frenzy. One wag on the internet put together a montage of more than two minutes of Fox News talking heads discounting Paul’s poll win. Meanwhile, the congressman’s critics have over the years tried to link him to all sorts of dubious characters, from the 9/11 truthers to the neo-Nazis.

If the guy is such a sure loser in 2012, why all the attacks? In his quiet way, Paul must have tapped into something. And you can get an idea of that something from what Pat Buchanan wrote the other day about the CPAC poll.

After asking "how do conservatives justify borrowing hundreds of billions yearly from Europe, Japan and the Gulf states — to defend Europe, Japan and the Arab Gulf states?" Buchanan answered his own question by making the case that such policies are not conservative at all.

"Ron Paul’s victory at CPAC may be a sign the prodigal sons of the right are casting off the heresy of neoconservatism and coming home to first principles," Buchanan concluded.

Buchanan has put his finger on why the unemotional Texas congressman produces such an emotional reaction. The party establishment has to dread the prospect of a candidate who can unite the youthful libertarian conservatives with the Buchananite America-first types. Such a character might win a plurality running against Romney, Huckabee and neocon Barbie doll Sarah Palin.

And Paul might have the most money of them all, thanks to the support of those young voters who actually understand how the internet works. I suspect this is what all the shouting is about, even though the subject of it all never raises his voice.

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Cuando se suelen anunciar los candidatos a las elecciones? La precampaña para las primarias fue a lo largo de 2007, cierto? Eso nos sitúa en 2011, el año que viene empezará lo bueno si se presenta?

En Dailykos un tipo dice que dejó de apoyar a Ron Paul y a continuación califica la Constitución de documento redactado por blancos ricos y supremacistas que no querían pagar impuestos y en cuyo nombre se han cometido atrocidades. Vamos, le debió de apoyar un par de horas y por error!

El odio viene por ambos lados. En Freerepublic, donde hay una panda de pirados obsesionados con los musulmanes, le atacan por oponerse a la guerra. En webs de izquierda le acusan de racista, que en EEUU es un deporte nacional. En el fondo está bien que excite a los dos extremos.

Buchanan sobre Ron Paul :

Liquidating the Empire

decade ago, Oldsmobile went. Last year, Pontiac. Saturn, Saab and Hummer were discontinued. A thousand GM dealerships shut down.

To those who grew up in a “GM family,” where buying a Chrysler was like converting to Islam, what happened to GM was deeply saddening.

Yet the amputations had to be done — or GM would die.

And the same may be about to happen to the American Imperium.

Its birth can be traced to World War II, when America put 16 million men in uniform and sent millions across the seas to crush Nazi Germany and Japan. After V-E and V-J Day, the boys came home.

But with the Stalinization of half of Europe, the fall of China, and war in Korea came NATO and alliances with Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, the Philippines, Thailand, Pakistan and Australia that lasted through the Cold War.

In 1989, however, the Cold War ended dramatically with the fall of the Berlin Wall, the retirement of the Red Army from Europe, the break-up of the Soviet Union and Beijing’s abandonment of world communist revolution.

Overnight, our world changed. But America did not change.

As Russia shed her alliances and China set out to capture America’s markets, Uncle Sam soldiered on.

We clung to the old alliances and began to add new allies. NATO war guarantees were distributed like credit cards to member states of the old Warsaw Pact and former republics of the Soviet Union.

We invaded Panama and Haiti, smashed Iraq, liberated Kuwait, intervened in Somalia and Bosnia, bombed Serbia, and invaded Iraq again — and Afghanistan. Now we prepare for a new war — on Iran.

Author Lawrence Vance has inventoried America’s warfare state.

We spend more on defense than the next 10 nations combined.

Our Navy exceeds in firepower the next 13 navies combined. We have 100,000 troops in Iraq, 100,000 in Afghanistan or headed there, 28,000 in Korea, over 35,000 in Japan and 50,000 in Germany. By the Department of Defense’s “Base Structure Report,” there are 716 U.S. bases in 38 countries.

Chalmers Johnson, who has written books on this subject, claims DOD is minimizing the empire. He discovered some 1,000 U.S. facilities, many of them secret and sensitive. And according to DOD’s “Active Duty Military Personnel Strengths by Regional Area and by Country,” U.S. troops are now stationed in 148 countries and 11 territories.

Estimated combined budgets for the Pentagon, two wars, foreign aid to allies, 16 intelligence agencies, scores of thousands of contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan, and our new castle-embassies: $1 trillion a year.

While this worldwide archipelago of bases may have been necessary when we confronted a Sino-Soviet bloc spanning Eurasia from the Elbe to East China Sea, armed with thousands of nuclear weapons and driven by imperial ambition and ideological hatred of us, that is history now.

It is preposterous to argue that all these bases are essential to our security. Indeed, our military presence, our endless wars and our support of despotic regimes have made America, once the most admired of nations, almost everywhere resented and even hated.

Liquidation of this empire should have begun with the end of the Cold War. Now it is being forced upon us by the deficit-debt crisis. Like GM, we can’t kick this can up the road any more, because we have come to the end of the road.

Republicans will fight new taxes. Democrats will fight to save social programs. Which leaves the American empire as the logical lead cow for the butcher’s knife.

Indeed, how do conservatives justify borrowing hundreds of billions yearly from Europe, Japan and the Gulf states — to defend Europe, Japan and the Arab Gulf states? Is it not absurd to borrow hundreds of billion annually from China — to defend Asia from China? Is it not a symptom of senility to borrow from all over the world in order to defend that world?

In their Mount Vernon declaration of principles, conservatives called the Constitution their guiding star. But did not the author of that constitution, James Madison, warn us that wars are the death of republics?

Under Bush II, conservatives, spurning the wisdom of their fathers, let themselves be seduced, neo-conned into enlisting in a Wilsonian crusade that had as its declared utopian goal “ending tyranny in our world.”

How could conservatives whose defining virtue is prudence and who pride themselves on following the lamp of experience have been taken into camp by the hustlers and hucksters of empire?

Yet, now that Barack Obama has embraced neo-socialism, Republicans are about to be given a second chance. And just as Rahm Emanuel said liberal Democrats should not let a financial crisis go to waste, but exploit it to ram through their agenda, the right should use the opportunity of the fiscal crisis to take an axe to the warfare state.

Ron Paul’s victory at CPAC may be a sign the prodigal sons of the right are casting off the heresy of neoconservatism and coming home to first principles.

Qué gran verdad. Esto debería leerlo Paul y pasarlo a sus colegas de partido

Ron Paul y Pat Buchanan colaboran. Ron Paul es el ala más libertaria y Buchanan es el ala más conservadora.

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Carpe Diem, Dr. Paul! by Mark R. Crovelli

Carpe Diem, Dr. Paul!
by Mark R. Crovelli

Ron Paul’s stunning landslide victory in the CPAC straw poll is an event that cannot be allowed to go to waste. Political moments this ripe are about as rare as the California condor, and Ron Paul would do us all an incalculable service if he would seize the day, and declare his intention to run in the 2012 presidential election. He needs to do this right now. Not next month, not next year, but now.

Just imagine the effect that an announcement of candidacy would do for the Paulian revolution right now. As the only declared candidate for president in 2012 and the winner of the CPAC straw poll, he would immediately garner widespread media attention. Not only would he be the only declared candidate at the moment, but he might even be the only declared presidential candidate for the next eleven months. To have the field completely free of challengers and a fearsome grassroots electioneering and fundraising machine already in place is the political strategist’s Holy Grail. All Ron Paul has to do is tell the world he is running in 2012, and his entire movement will spring to life without any challengers standing in his way.

The fear and loathing Ron Paul would instill in the powers that be cannot be overstated. In their terrified stupor, the Republican leadership would search far and wide to find a sufficiently servile sock puppet to trot out to oppose Dr. Paul. All they would find, however, is a Mormon version of Ted Kennedy, an old man from Arizona who is clearly off his rocker, and a woman who can’t figure out what she stands for, besides war. The situation for Dr. Paul would only brighten if the Republican National Committee were to push for an early announcement of candidacy from one of these clowns. Indeed, the best possible outcome for Dr. Paul and the movement would be to force the RNC’s hand to pick one of these idiots sooner rather than later. The front-running idiot at the moment is the Mormon version of Ted Kennedy who loves socialized medicine. Life would be good indeed if Dr. Paul could induce the RNC to throw its weight behind a man who supports socialized medicine. That would ensure a Ron Paul run against Barack Obama in 2012!

The paroxysms of fear that would grip the Obama administration would be equally great, because Ron Paul is actually committed to ending our murderous foreign empire. Obama won the last election on the "peace platform," which was possible only because he was running against a crazy old man, hell-bent on even more war than Bush II. In such company, Obama looked like a "peace candidate." In the company of Dr. Paul, however, Obama can be seen for what he is; namely, a card-carrying member of the same war party that includes Bush II. If Obama knew at this early point that he could possibly be facing Ron Paul in 2012, he would have to start changing his perpetual-war policies right now in order to stand a chance against the real "peace candidate" in two years. Nor could he continue to indulge in his lunatic Keynesianism-meets-corporatism economic policies, because Ron Paul the presidential candidate would publicly expose it all as the quackery it is. Ron Paul is Obama’s worst nightmare in 2012.

Perhaps most importantly, however, is the hope that his early announcement would give to the American people. For, without Dr. Paul as a candidate in 2012, we will be left with only the most cynical and dreadful of options. We will be faced with a so-called "peace candidate" who is wholly devoted to war, and a mainstream Republican candidate who is devoted to war coupled with torture and assassination. We will be faced with a socialist incumbent, and a mainstream Republican candidate devoted to corporate welfare and succoring the military-industrial complex. Without Dr. Paul in the mix, these will be our only options: war + socialism, or war + torture + economic fascism. There will be no hope for freedom and peace.

The need is great for you, Dr. Paul, and the moment will never be so ripe for you to announce your candidacy. Seize the moment and awaken the slumbering revolutionaries who are waiting for you to say the word and give them hope in 2012. The murmurs and whispers that you might run in 2012 will give way to a groundswell of support that will make the very Earth tremble. Please give us what we want and need in the depths of depression and war, the hope that liberty and peace can still be attained in our lifetime.


February 26, 2010

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